From lojban-beginners+bncCIycn8S8DhD9ivbpBBoEG_DUPA@googlegroups.com Mon Jan 24 05:58:41 2011 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PhMwJ-0007qr-3v; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:58:41 -0800 Received: by qyl38 with SMTP id 38sf11930801qyl.16 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:58:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=LQL4TddqP5Jz5xupVLshR8jVenTIrXaCh+kM/gowOgg=; b=cwWBHQUhG3vyoB/VDxtDoCVZ0ufV03bfgtg2RLHVeHGYZErFlzh2c3JWfrEFNvFcZ7 ERHBCvB+XMUG/dMtGhXFGot5TFpWMjVgaf+2C0b3xtq7DzFuH8zAtvGYC14XFx5/nYiw xKHuMdB5WwOAlsUrYUEEc3qmDUEsFWTFZWf7A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=EgzofxLjxpo1TCrAGKTCW5sk9ELNZ58Qunx74H0IsUhRuTkV9HvRdQyMUJGAOgMKTb Q2YGk9bhkJiOYXfcf3FRqgI2ouLaZSDrOccOvf4f+vKhaOYXDRlK4ZRNOtyseAYaFn4H 1KR7CJCd3G9K+oM1qypqyQ3vw18hgIWnGwz+A= Received: by 10.229.219.81 with SMTP id ht17mr490739qcb.15.1295877501479; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:58:21 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.75.218 with SMTP id z26ls1526282qcj.3.p; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.85.10 with SMTP id m10mr527119qcl.21.1295877500700; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.85.10 with SMTP id m10mr527118qcl.21.1295877500681; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qy0-f171.google.com (mail-qy0-f171.google.com [209.85.216.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i16si2909975qco.11.2011.01.24.05.58.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:58:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.171; Received: by qyk32 with SMTP id 32so2964305qyk.2 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:58:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.189.6 with SMTP id dc6mr3836015qcb.175.1295877489056; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.213.204 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:58:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7a56acc4-c2ce-47fe-ba09-b1f6a61eb59d@c39g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:58:08 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Questions on the sounds chosen for Lojban From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Zifre wrote: > > In general, I think Lojban is a very easy language to pronounce, at > least for native English speakers, and probably other languages as > well. Really the only words I have a hard time with are the ones with > weird consonant clusters, like "zdani" when there is no vowel before > it. (I remember "mlatu" and "xrula" being hard at one point, but > the're pretty easy now.) > zdani isn't difficult,. Rememeber that "z" is voiced "s" and "d" is voiced "t". So if you can pronounce "st-", you should have zero problems voicing it to "zd-" --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.