From lojban-beginners+bncCOjSjrXVGBDZ7_fpBBoEl_z8pA@googlegroups.com Mon Jan 24 14:06:59 2011 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PhUYV-0006Hh-Bo; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:06:39 -0800 Received: by ywh1 with SMTP id 1sf3845006ywh.16 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:06:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=D/DA4Ec61vm/hMRAnz1DoGclni+lyR+ZZPrrVFtVXfY=; b=hoJE5xpAzGkyFLSSw2b2wOMvFCTe2qXNJtTgAQFRXKyfAqZJq8oJYwN3lWStm7kow5 DNzDOVxnWNbpwaJOP4l6bVj4DKA1JIrf8PSMo2QrgsgdpmAbSvf0IkSHNVPRBTkQNyhu yuvGwMSbhqAwp8cMGyPygCCwqY+Sp0hAp7gXg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=c6xmHhmz7lSeL8NuGN9BUmgBD7n0mvDAyfOfwpwQAhBBAQPCPc5v8Zx3h0r5hBxW0A k9eZngj2MERCl/utnRDhRrvI25FdMxx2XkGJt6fF5k9zRjhDlEA5Pl3Lqv/oGuVrbur4 yw8GfjIm8dN5IeoAzvs3bPNyyhPGfg1W/mK38= Received: by 10.151.144.9 with SMTP id w9mr500065ybn.16.1295906777719; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:06:17 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.2.82 with SMTP id 18ls5100163ibi.2.p; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:06:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.164.132 with SMTP id g4mr484912icy.54.1295906776860; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:06:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.164.132 with SMTP id g4mr484911icy.54.1295906776788; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:06:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f176.google.com (mail-iw0-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d9si3286436ibq.7.2011.01.24.14.06.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:06:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.176; Received: by mail-iw0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 2so5140089iwn.7 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:06:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.153.195 with SMTP id l3mr3130434ibw.150.1295906775403; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:06:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.200.148 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:06:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:06:15 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] ko vs do in requests From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=005045015f5b048b29049a9ecf66 --005045015f5b048b29049a9ecf66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ahhh but gejyspa, how else would you translate oliver twists request {pe'u nanmu mi djica lo zmadu}? ;) On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > I personally would always use ko with them. > To me, if you said "pe'u do dunda lo djacu mi" It would imply > something more along the lines almost of "Thank you for giving me > water" (please, you are giving me water). > --gejyspa > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Alex Rozenshteyn > wrote: > > e'o and pe'u, as well as e'u, to a slightly different extent, convey that > > the listener should act in some way. Is there an established style for > when > > to use ko in addition to them? > > > > -- > > Alex R > > > > -- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --005045015f5b048b29049a9ecf66 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ahhh but gejyspa, how else would you translate oliver twists request {pe= 9;u nanmu mi djica lo zmadu}? =A0;)

On M= on, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wr= ote:
=A0I personally would always use ko with t= hem.
=A0To me, if you said "pe'u do dunda =A0lo djacu mi" =A0It w= ould imply
something more along the lines almost of "Thank you for giving me
water" (please, you are giving me water).
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa


On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote:
> e'o and pe'u, as well as e'u, to a slightly different exte= nt, convey that
> the listener should act in some way.=A0 Is there an established style = for when
> to use ko in addition to them?
>
> --
> =A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Alex R
>
> --

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