From lojban-beginners+bncCOib25n_BhDO__fpBBoEa9lrOA@googlegroups.com Mon Jan 24 14:40:36 2011 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PhV5M-0008HE-VL; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:40:36 -0800 Received: by gwb20 with SMTP id 20sf3877322gwb.16 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:40:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=GzeRruM7qE7QNnC1PPYafjZ7ytlipxTeTUt6umRLfl4=; b=zt5VYR43aC6StWkJ2tYrqgdP1JglTse6q2VbQE0d1QNTOx8HVGSFSYBZxXyxqBxeom wqQf8PWvM6Kyz180l9g2BvrUKTJTwReuVaLuWZ8CAfJz4TXIKDU1K7Cqng7TYtBKcbfT KaZa4MEDHByJUWC3MEZvBPc3ClDHV2PW9aqzg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=rII1JPGuXAgkWD7Q82L9NE8JZBh5+wNQHPTU2ef4J9sBbvxM2LdZCD8841CU/CN7+B 9/GGsd8lrbJ0HekRgt5fbwe5hzHAZ5SYwsDbM8lbxO8JQXMLsnWPJ2366lsTqaemRjvh q+zqpFtdamtnF8O5OQzkABIzcms4l0O4BK57o= Received: by 10.90.30.19 with SMTP id d19mr362036agd.40.1295908814750; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:40:14 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.2.82 with SMTP id 18ls5134922ibi.2.p; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:40:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.174.133 with SMTP id v5mr502095icz.48.1295908813791; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:40:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.174.133 with SMTP id v5mr502094icz.48.1295908813775; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:40:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f181.google.com (mail-iy0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c4si1549983ict.0.2011.01.24.14.40.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:40:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.181; Received: by mail-iy0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 18so6481626iyj.40 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:40:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.221.199 with SMTP id id7mr5595984icb.355.1295908812320; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:40:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.172.67 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:40:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:40:12 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] ko vs do in requests From: Alex Rozenshteyn To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba4768256b6ed6049a9f480b --90e6ba4768256b6ed6049a9f480b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Then how would you say "Let's go to the mall."? {.e'u mi'o klama lo se zaisle}, right? On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > Ahhh but gejyspa, how else would you translate oliver twists request {pe'u > nanmu mi djica lo zmadu}? ;) > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Michael Turniansky > wrote: > >> I personally would always use ko with them. >> To me, if you said "pe'u do dunda lo djacu mi" It would imply >> something more along the lines almost of "Thank you for giving me >> water" (please, you are giving me water). >> --gejyspa >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Alex Rozenshteyn >> wrote: >> > e'o and pe'u, as well as e'u, to a slightly different extent, convey >> that >> > the listener should act in some way. Is there an established style for >> when >> > to use ko in addition to them? >> > >> > -- >> > Alex R >> > >> > -- >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- Alex R -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --90e6ba4768256b6ed6049a9f480b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Then how would you say "Let's go to the mall."?=A0 {.e'u = mi'o klama lo se zaisle}, right?

On M= on, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
Ahhh but gejyspa,= how else would you translate oliver twists request {pe'u nanmu mi djic= a lo zmadu}? =A0;)

On Mon, Ja= n 24, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
=A0I personally = would always use ko with them.
=A0To me, if you said "pe'u do dunda =A0lo djacu mi" =A0It w= ould imply
something more along the lines almost of "Thank you for giving me
water" (please, you are giving me water).
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa


On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote: > e'o and pe'u, as well as e'u, to a slightly different exte= nt, convey that
> the listener should act in some way.=A0 Is there an established style = for when
> to use ko in addition to them?
>
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> =A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Alex R
>
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