From lojban-beginners+bncCLzGtKCVBRC5rPzpBBoELnyyOg@googlegroups.com Tue Jan 25 10:28:51 2011 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Phnd0-00046h-3p; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:28:51 -0800 Received: by gxk19 with SMTP id 19sf4635990gxk.16 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:28:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:x-ymail-osg :x-mailer:date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=6DZzw2x5SC7m5KiZ87rPkmg+GVYX+aGdZOmRE8f0NyY=; b=HKkjKgaVzeEEJHfim3LC3N3GhRE9oCCDTObxxuvmCR5SqEMoIiL+5lA1cKTVgxtiLb RElwVUb0uolpFD2mzAjNU6HuGy/xWRlG2oWAsKXX2R1U6dSNyYrlSUYOF9mSAmam/TBi HHja83PdBntCmppTBit02Yy85e1BVX1zP4AD8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:x-ymail-osg:x-mailer:date:from :subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=BoNmm/hgtYBkSY/uvuRD8OMpZu5QZFF+T7yH4EBTFY2eREi9OeBjxXLQGpr2dGqWkl a3K6PXZCFPibG+3lANO6PMJaE0kQxitoQGyv7tOktLQc4E7CifIVja6J8O2QzI9DPyRC N5874C+gn1CEF9u3eqwYW2LY6CxZzSM7oDbYY= Received: by 10.151.15.11 with SMTP id s11mr569347ybi.72.1295980089864; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:28:09 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.201.10 with SMTP id y10ls2057425ybf.6.p; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:28:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.186.12 with SMTP id j12mr1097241ybf.32.1295980088858; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:28:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.186.12 with SMTP id j12mr1097240ybf.32.1295980088811; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:28:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.69.69]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id u31si2286215yba.5.2011.01.25.10.28.07; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:28:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of to_mu1975@yahoo.com designates 209.191.69.69 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.191.69.69; Received: (qmail 90410 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jan 2011 18:28:07 -0000 Message-ID: <166116.89695.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mawaOykVM1lCgplyOW4JnPu4SNE2kL9tYaG_KNlL5nRu6jf 7wCBWNFVlN6QtshSTIAlYj8KJVth7hvvEFex6ee7ul9gxZJqyLlLCorA_us3 peI_sorp37HhPWZg77eBJ1azgRMVNImo7mteEBW1pAX2BVeRLHsm79sHiRqU DAN71fEh95GSFlXP1vCafKIl7oLuArP72wln_1jZMV2UugUKYN5gKIoi.3iS jBJNQhKEX1dNBMFyI6QE9Abb4tQfDOrYY0LX1NDTPHZ4BlHqHJj6kKXXq_ml S_U1njbNPv7KjwV9ej9okq2tl9FSv_Y8xhc9QvNECZz9wt8u0lchXoqQ7Zc3 NyMOlOa5hAW1l5fNe8CcORg-- Received: from [2.82.93.46] by web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:28:06 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:28:06 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] days of the week To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <201101250142.40669.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: to_mu1975@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of to_mu1975@yahoo.com designates 209.191.69.69 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=to_mu1975@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1431253757-1295980086=:89695" --0-1431253757-1295980086=:89695 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 pavdei, reldei, etc... are kinda hard and counterintuitive for portuguese speakers (and maybe other languages, I don't know). Monday is "segunda-feira" (second) in that language. Sunday is "primeira-feira" (first), etc.. Can someone link me to the previous discussion, I can't readily find it by googling... Thanks. --- On Tue, 1/25/11, Pierre Abbat wrote: From: Pierre Abbat Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] days of the week To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 7:42 AM On Monday 24 January 2011 16:24:31 xaujbes cindustus wrote: > coi ro do > > Is there a standard list for sunday through saturday? A while ago I used a > word I got from the Lojban for Beginners workboook for 'monday' and the > fluent speakers who responded didn't know what I was talking about, so I > checked the dictionary, and it gave me a different set of words than what > LoB told me. And then just now someone used mudydei in an email which I > took to be a day of the week but not (if I recall correctly) the one listed > on the dictionary site. There are two: (soldei, lurdei, fagdei, jaurdei, mudydei, jimdei, derdei) and (nondei, pavdei, reldei, cibdei, vondei, mumdei, xavdei, zeldei). So there are three words for Sunday, the choice between "nondei" and "zeldei" based on whether you start the week with Sunday or Monday. There's a natlang (past and, for reintegrationists, present) with two lists of days of the week, namely Portuguese-Galician. As to the months, I used to use "celma'i" and the like, but now think those should be astrological signs, not calendar months. For the calendar months, I use (ianvari, frebuari, martio, prilio, madjio, djunio, djulio, avgusto, septembero, oktobero, novmbero, decmbero). Months used in previous versions of the Roman calendar include (mercedonio, kuintili, sektili). Pierre -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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pavdei, reldei, etc... are kinda hard and cou= nterintuitive for portuguese speakers (and maybe other languages, I don't k= now). Monday is "segunda-feira" (second) in that language. Sunday is "prime= ira-feira" (first), etc..

Can someone link me to the previous discus= sion, I can't readily find it by googling...
Thanks.

--- On Tu= e, 1/25/11, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

From: Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] days of the week
To: lojban-beginners@g= ooglegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 7:42 AM

On Monday 24 January 2011 16:24:31 xaujbes cindustus wrote= :
> coi ro do
>
> Is there a standard list for sunday thr= ough saturday? A while ago I used a
> word I got from the Lojban for Begi= nners workboook for 'monday' and the
> fluent speakers who responded = didn't know what I was talking about, so I
> checked the dictionary, = and it gave me a different set of words than what
> LoB told me. And = then just now someone used mudydei in an email which I
> took to be a= day of the week but not (if I recall correctly) the one listed
> on = the dictionary site.

There are two: (soldei, lurdei, fagdei, jaurdei= , mudydei, jimdei, derdei) and
(nondei, pavdei, reldei, cibdei, vondei,= mumdei, xavdei, zeldei). So there
are three words for Sunday, the choi= ce between "nondei" and "zeldei" based on
whether you start the week wi= th Sunday or Monday.

There's a natlang (past and, for reintegrationi= sts, present) with two lists of
days of the week, namely Portuguese-Gal= ician.

As to the months, I used to use "celma'i" and the like, but now think those
should be astrological signs, not calendar m= onths. For the calendar months, I
use (ianvari, frebuari, martio, prili= o, madjio, djunio, djulio, avgusto,
septembero, oktobero, novmbero, dec= mbero). Months used in previous versions
of the Roman calendar include = (mercedonio, kuintili, sektili).

Pierre
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