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PIEKARSKI" Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] days of the week To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <166116.89695.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: totus@rogers.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 98.139.53.194 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of totus@rogers.com) smtp.mail=totus@rogers.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@rogers.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > >pavdei, reldei, etc... are kinda hard and counterintuitive for portuguese= =20 >speakers (and maybe other languages, I don't know). Monday is "segunda-fei= ra"=20 >(second) in that language. Sunday is "primeira-feira" (first), etc.. Interesting.=A0 But I have just found out that the beginning of the work we= ek in=20 China,=A0India and even muslim Indonesia is Monday.=A0 So pavdei for Monday= =20 still seems the most reasonable option. > >Can someone link me to the previous discussion, I can't readily find it by= =20 >googling... >Thanks. > >--- On Tue, 1/25/11, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > >>From: Pierre Abbat >>Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] days of the week >>To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com >>Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 7:42 AM >> >> >>On Monday 24 January 2011 16:24:31 xaujbes cindustus wrote: >>> coi ro do >>> >>> Is there a standard list for sunday through saturday? A while ago I use= d a >>> word I got from the Lojban for Beginners workboook for 'monday' and the >>> fluent speakers who responded didn't know what I was talking about, so = I >>> checked the dictionary, and it gave me a different set of words than wh= at >>> LoB told me. And then just now someone used mudydei in an email which I >>> took to be a day of the week but not (if I recall correctly) the one li= sted >>> on the dictionary site. >> >>There are two: (soldei, lurdei, fagdei, jaurdei, mudydei, jimdei, derdei)= and=20 >>(nondei, pavdei, reldei, cibdei, vondei, mumdei, xavdei, zeldei). So ther= e=20 >>are three words for Sunday, the choice between "nondei" and "zeldei" base= d on=20 >>whether you start the week with Sunday or Monday. >> >>There's a natlang (past and, for reintegrationists, present) with two lis= ts of=20 >>days of the week, namely Portuguese-Galician. >> >>As to the months, I used to use "celma'i" and the like, but now think tho= se=20 >>should be astrological signs, not calendar months. For the calendar month= s, I=20 >>use (ianvari, frebuari, martio, prilio, madjio, djunio, djulio, avgusto,= =20 >>septembero, oktobero, novmbero, decmbero). Months used in previous versio= ns=20 >>of the Roman calendar include (mercedonio, kuintili, sektili). >> >>Pierre >>--=20 >>li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa >> >>--=20 >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= =20 >>"Lojban Beginners" group. >>To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to=20 >>lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>For more options, visit this group at=20 >>http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >> >>=20 >--=20 >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= =20 >"Lojban Beginners" group. >To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to=20 >lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit this group at=20 >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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