From lojban-beginners+bncCIycn8S8DhDyuIDqBBoEpUsYYQ@googlegroups.com Wed Jan 26 05:07:19 2011 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pi55g-0005Bm-Qz; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 05:07:19 -0800 Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1sf613530vws.16 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 05:07:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=TfNy+oNQe72Sfngdxvt7MEelXSs6iBwcytgzWckAVj0=; b=yE/IAIVoeeGDgyt64Ld8H+XruPP1UBEfz0jMsz1J/lwB3+iBJ0mqwZun/Mu6ctaAQj 2zJlG71bSuEQjAUC0GA5q/VkGUOIhS9SG03wWWOuzI/VfPYWS43+OwODoT0gJTBzhTEp WHbizhW98dwe7GY9d+tdhk14G45QVgsN+8Fh8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=U6mK7y0JV6JtG+wrpcAvl3lwkAvkBUo/cjNee79RQ9V8UQttJBTLGB2rFhZ7YRXAkH u6XFhFxoVJRaHKrA0LhSvKLMGAVkK6qek3FWPD4zly/P0cTvraKLI5g/AYpUisINwPny ZxXcls1+R7RmceUZ5ZEoT7qTRiFTcDKYVrrco= Received: by 10.220.95.66 with SMTP id c2mr337259vcn.55.1296047218624; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 05:06:58 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.109.137 with SMTP id j9ls60322vcp.0.p; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 05:06:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.179.139 with SMTP id bq11mr2281288vcb.21.1296047217152; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 05:06:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.179.139 with SMTP id bq11mr2281287vcb.21.1296047217137; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 05:06:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qy0-f172.google.com (mail-qy0-f172.google.com [209.85.216.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x13si390461vcr.7.2011.01.26.05.06.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 05:06:56 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.172; Received: by mail-qy0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 34so5215028qyk.3 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 05:06:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.235.147 with SMTP id kg19mr389416qcb.61.1296047215933; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 05:06:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.213.204 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 05:06:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5893662.473.1295996118205.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prhq39> References: <5893662.473.1295996118205.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prhq39> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:06:55 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] days of the week From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Lindar wrote: > These are all -religious- concepts putting the sabbath as the last numbered > day of the week. Sadly, the secular world starts on Monday, and Lojban is a > secular language. We've not arrived at a single conclusion, but we have what > I've seen to be four main options. > 1. Stick to the classic {pavdei} and just deal with the fact that it looks > retarded ('oneday' rather than 'firstday'). > 2. Use the more sensible {pavmomdei}. > 3. Use {pavdetri} as perhaps a more specific meaning. > 4. Use some kind of naming scheme (that is not a direct translation of any > natural language weekday name. Many of the existing proposals are translated > from the French/English where they aren't based on the name of a God, and > Japanese for those days which couldn't be taken from the former). > Unless we have some rational alternate option, I think we should vote on one > of these four in a last-man-standing kind of tournament. Vote on all four, > the one least liked gets dropped, rinse, repeat. Sorry, I'm still campaigning for my color based system http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/a2d5fd068451d768 --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.