From lojban-beginners+bncCIycn8S8DhD4g4LqBBoEw3T2KA@googlegroups.com Wed Jan 26 12:20:29 2011 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PiBqs-0000FR-DF; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:20:29 -0800 Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1sf908449vws.16 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:20:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=2j7d+bcZXWXy6lhKJSrJKLGtM2CoaKLK5gkemiGBo54=; b=42YDYD1bxJxHaqztFePi0DfaqcMMVXuWsdccKzsyChcnr6927SR6r2/QmqNHa1fBwA 9/6GrgIk3ism0UjvAdCnPlwTf1wIObtWFmryeeydwGH4DFdKdWKvK6c5JDjigTIgdomb 7UUPnTPGGF5cw5R5UCRT/3ECOH4v3lx7NuVrg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=SyA05Sq6sjAcq4slgqBp8QodgMynS02J9c9YILqJF0GAR2KEZFWiNb8TLORNBio1xZ ZPKUBHsurnbKytRhrcOwalN9LSUciCrqCC0Yc8DdhfHms/yAvN5g0pOjqL0WmnS/3uuo iO+LPM7wsFX2FBlLte52E5D6AEdmMTJqkX7B8= Received: by 10.220.186.69 with SMTP id cr5mr3163vcb.28.1296073208998; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:20:08 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.109.137 with SMTP id j9ls120378vcp.0.p; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:20:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.201.77 with SMTP id ez13mr13726vcb.9.1296073207108; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:20:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.201.77 with SMTP id ez13mr13725vcb.9.1296073207066; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:20:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qw0-f51.google.com (mail-qw0-f51.google.com [209.85.216.51]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p11si1205333vcf.10.2011.01.26.12.20.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:20:06 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.51; Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so1355328qwg.38 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:20:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.235.147 with SMTP id kg19mr749626qcb.61.1296073205704; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.213.204 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:20:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <30650914.755.1296071937581.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prm15> References: <30650914.755.1296071937581.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prm15> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:20:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] days of the week From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Lindar wrote: > (I'm keeping this here because newbies -should- be reading this. There are > good lessons to be learned in what I'm saying here.) > 1. Lujvo don't have to mean EXACTLY the sum of their components and nothing > more. {nikyge'u} means like the English equivalent "big fish", for example. > {nunkei} doesn't mean 'playing', it means 'a game'. You have to realise that > lujvo exist to be more than just short tanru. For all intents and purposes, > if we -say- that {pavdei} means "x1 is the first day of week x2" then it > means that. Oh well. > 2. {pavmomdei} might be better for that purpose, but it lacks the whole > day/week/month/year place either way unless we decide to arbitrarily add it. > 3. {detri} seems perfect. It has the appropriate places, and we should use > it for -something-. {lo seldetri be li pa} is "the first". It doesn't > specify the week, so we can assume it means "Monday". We could also simply > put {pavdetri} because it's the 1 day of ? week of ? month of ? year (cos we > didn't specify), which means that it's a Monday. > 4. Cycling colours? Gejyspa, I hate the colours you picked (because there's > no logical order to them). So, Red Yellow Green Cyan Blue Magenta Black ? > Sounds lovely to me. Primary Secondary Primary Secondary Primary Secondary > Black. How you had it was Primary Tertiary Secondary Primary Secondary > Primary Tertiary, which makes little sense. So, xundei, peldei, ri'odei, > cicnydei, bladei, nukdei, xekydei. xundei, najdei, peldei, ri'odje, cicnydei, bladei, zirdei No, it was in spectral order -- Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Cyan, Blue, Violet. You are thinking additive, whereas I was doing subtractive colors. I'm sorry, you've never owned a crayon box? > Which reminds me, ctino needs to bring up > eir colour proposal again to the BPFK. I really need to push that through. > 5. We're not adding a new gismu that means either of those things. We have > {detri} which already has that meaning. Make up a zi'evla if you want to > have those words and I'll probably end up using them. > 6. If we're actually going to decide, let's bring it to the BPFK with all of > our ideas and ask the jatna for a decision. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.