From lojban-beginners+bncCOjSjrXVGBDBgpTqBBoEIg9uiQ@googlegroups.com Sat Jan 29 22:12:37 2011 Received: from mail-yi0-f61.google.com ([209.85.218.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PjQWY-0008Sk-Kq; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:12:37 -0800 Received: by yia27 with SMTP id 27sf2846451yia.16 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:12:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=rFWx/Y6Pq+j7lHcUWcuaK33qZyddbsxCiBDUIvZw/lA=; b=FJhJToRkzBql7BqiUmIdTqMvq8JNfMOGDCxZnyoJgWvzUV8AAOriCV4hOnrwzHjvVb Ze1FdzJl0F7yiRGuCN3VA0Dw8/YrgO4VVN0TNzQD7X1CcRwd6tJXjCbC3KfKDS0RhcXI +NgkSS7zdMFRnctLDbjFibmY+RHdP8nDdbGfA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=cYDtdR/yBH9Tgnb+SOuzpiwUiiR58UDrbXJ++wmLsNNRMKz4em+cjNVJUmHOiYj25W pnJZ8evGvaMZzF/PIr15lVlI0DmmyIT6pGMdsJkkJNRlagiFI5dnaNNBIpEFtSwDjS8T nc0fILvjhR1lxCKntqY50R7Q3UGFEpmYOJ3h0= Received: by 10.150.50.7 with SMTP id x7mr519905ybx.82.1296367937311; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:12:17 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.76.165 with SMTP id c37ls1918913ibk.3.p; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.39.73 with SMTP id f9mr2178312ibe.17.1296367936467; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.39.73 with SMTP id f9mr2178311ibe.17.1296367936435; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f173.google.com (mail-iw0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j25si4701158ibb.0.2011.01.29.22.12.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:12:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.173; Received: by mail-iw0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 40so5332644iwn.32 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:12:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.199.19 with SMTP id eq19mr4897219ibb.175.1296367935298; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:12:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.200.148 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:12:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7098699.2072.1296363137187.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prig8> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 01:12:15 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] preti: sequential naming for long-term reference From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba53a6ae481fa0049b0a2e53 --90e6ba53a6ae481fa0049b0a2e53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In what way is "lo mi tuple cu dasni lo pamoi" more brief than "mi dasni lo pamoi palku"? They're both equally valid. I'm just curious since you said earlier that you were going for brevity. On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Oren wrote: > { mi klama fo le pa moi ku } > or just > { mi klama fo le pamoi } > > mmm. I like that solution. For pants I could do: > > { lo mi tuple ku cu dasni lo pa moi ku } > or just > { lo mi tuple cu dasni lo pamoi } > > beautiful. ki'ecai > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 23:52, Lindar wrote: > >> If you want to be -extremely- brief, you could say {le pamoi ku}. One can >> glean from context what it could be in the case of {klama fo le pamoi} or >> somesuch. >> However, that's the most brief you'll be able to get, unless I've missed >> something. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Oren Robinson > (315) 569-2888 > 102 Morrison Ave > Somerville, MA 02144 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --90e6ba53a6ae481fa0049b0a2e53 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In what way is "lo mi tuple cu dasni lo pamoi" more brief than &q= uot;mi dasni lo pamoi palku"?

They're both equa= lly valid. =A0I'm just curious since you said earlier that you were goi= ng for brevity.

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Oren <get.oren@gmail.com> wrote:
{ mi klama fo le pa moi ku }=A0
or just
{ mi klama fo le pamoi }

mmm. I like that soluti= on. For pants I could do:

{ lo mi tuple ku cu dasni lo pa moi k= u }
or just
{ lo mi tuple cu dasni lo pamoi }

beautiful. ki'ecai

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 23:52, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com&g= t; wrote:
If you want to be -extremely- brief, you cou= ld say {le pamoi ku}. One can glean from context what it could be in the ca= se of {klama fo le pamoi} or somesuch.
However, that's the most brief you'll be able to get, unless I'= ve missed something.

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