From lojban-beginners+bncCNTPpI2KGxCCprfpBBoEgrVYTA@googlegroups.com Wed Jan 12 08:13:09 2011 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pd3Jo-0003bI-5B; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:13:09 -0800 Received: by qyl38 with SMTP id 38sf1656857qyl.16 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:12:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis :x-cloudmark-score:x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=dD9uICQM4pnAtGq0M3BNuSEVo7DHysrM9NA1EAqH+gw=; b=vhQ/9Q15PUF6a02nrA/e6o8CdvarizF2tX3mPmdxMJYaTHB14GKxF83UElm4oaJuY4 /TUEsdqdxDYIz/Wgs//m5txPqNyli1MfJv2av5D9DVFJXHta4NT422uYDuIOffXvhJiP JbU554ozF9pOp5jysRqQl/RhvNPFYFxWvaE+s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; b=B2IKTWL3YaGWtX/1AkpfeAgNPH4J26c5EjNp5L6aoaoL/yhA4xbvCLRUHyejlk7Q8f Oe6mk0Gi3DQEIh0lCADdSnFqHj+Si9D+KeD9O1a7z6gklIsuC87ZJklF4jkhllh/OXak okK/AEznTVLmBRLAyz2TQpulCmIGvbz9X/gxk= Received: by 10.229.15.16 with SMTP id i16mr164502qca.43.1294848770293; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:12:50 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.197.8 with SMTP id ei8ls292265qcb.1.p; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.126.131 with SMTP id c3mr171642qcs.0.1294848769526; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.126.131 with SMTP id c3mr171641qcs.0.1294848769512; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 19si190582qci.9.2011.01.12.08.12.49; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.122; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3jtQBdTzPyV+fq4oCU/u8ZPrJJGN11HvhaDVxyWhycI= c=1 sm=0 a=4Abt-lS488wA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=dlCkuJ_LoLD9VFtcnSIA:9 a=x8F2T4HuyE2tWMmbcyUnVVpsGH4A:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:58026] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 1B/6E-02631-CF2DD2D4; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:12:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B50178A5 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 11:12:42 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Define "define" Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 11:12:36 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <201101112018.32029.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4D2D97F6.8060402@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: <4D2D97F6.8060402@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201101121112.38216.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 12 January 2011 07:00:54 Bob LeChevalier, President and Founde= r -=20 LLG wrote: > What does "specify" mean (other than as a pretentious word for 'say')? > %^) I'm not sure whether it is really all that close to either to the > concepts specific or species as used in the gismu list A few weeks ago I defined "=E1=BC=80=CF=86=CE=B5=CE=B4=CF=81=CF=8E=CE=BD" a= s "toilet, latrine" in Wiktionary. It's a=20 word I found while reading the Bible in Greek, and there's only one other= =20 occurrence in known Ancient Greek writings. I did not specify the meaning; = I=20 described or asserted the meaning. When I was a kid, I defined "tosp" as "o= ne=20 who does not know what a tosp is". Since this was a new word and a new=20 concept, I specified the meaning. Pierre --=20 li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.