From lojban-beginners+bncCOjSjrXVGBCLuvvqBBoEXpidng@googlegroups.com Fri Feb 18 12:57:05 2011 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PqXNp-00087k-Nb; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:57:05 -0800 Received: by ywf7 with SMTP id 7sf605946ywf.16 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:56:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=n/t4xVXFrc+/9p04xf5fP7K+7jDUBKOQ541mbTL65vg=; b=nSu44zZERKoYmNQETbyf1j0ZeWLdrqmx965HB/7ePmsSOK6wVpR3YHbIToOFp9OGyZ TDTWi0IY7pB2fE/yJeifnwIbTdujMrUxMYvmDF1PJM16EB9preqUeK/cqKBu0KvbOulN rh3N3UWQKDdrbY9pnVIsZAKWlBpbXDOPAc3e0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=01QY6E08Ni8RiO17dWLprav2Ilav5wE+90ZhvnP3N8zimnC/mNDy2xewnPQDcIbUXU jHSuOfIry2Kdd46fCq4Nx2Mc4ymYxNJOFl59kTtwuqvhoM8dbq//KVDawrRF0NHOtEY/ 6yq7Rpp2epiFiSIvOQgm4aobokVRUdBRnu2Lk= Received: by 10.150.229.13 with SMTP id b13mr203223ybh.8.1298062603273; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:56:43 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.200.3 with SMTP id eu3ls2985146ibb.1.p; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.226.66 with SMTP id iv2mr95614icb.98.1298062602564; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.226.66 with SMTP id iv2mr95613icb.98.1298062602546; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c4si424822ict.0.2011.02.18.12.56.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.182; Received: by mail-iy0-f182.google.com with SMTP id 26so3976132iyb.41 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:56:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.206.207 with SMTP id fv15mr848984ibb.123.1298062602427; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.199.141 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.199.141 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:56:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <28379654.1304.1297380220015.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prcm35> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:56:42 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] translation check on zo-related quote From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba4fc218505f6c049c94c0d1 --90e6ba4fc218505f6c049c94c0d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > {x1 broda fi x2} should be able to be interpreted as {x1 broda [zi'o | zo'e > > | zu'i] x3} pe'icai > > Due to the bloated nature of many gismu definitions, that is probably > inevitable. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > You say that like it's some dreadful thing. If there are bridi that could use {zi'o} (and I assume that there are because otherwise what's the point of having a zi'o word at all if you're never really being correct by using it), then there are going to be times when you're being lazy or in a hurry and want to leave it up to context. I don't understand what's so undesirable about that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --90e6ba4fc218505f6c049c94c0d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> > {x1 broda fi x2} should be able to be interpreted as {x1 broda= [zi'o | zo'e
> > | zu'i] x3} pe'icai
>
> Due to the bloated nature of many gismu definitions, that is probably<= br> > inevitable.
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>

You say that like it's some dreadful thing.=A0 If there are bridi th= at could use {zi'o} (and I assume that there are because otherwise what= 's the point of having a zi'o word at all if you're never reall= y being correct by using it), then there are going to be times when you'= ;re being lazy or in a hurry and want to leave it up to context.=A0 I don&#= 39;t understand what's so undesirable about that.

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