From lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhCJoILrBBoElE94nA@googlegroups.com Sat Feb 19 19:53:01 2011 Received: from mail-gw0-f56.google.com ([74.125.83.56]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pr0Ly-0002sI-H6; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:53:01 -0800 Received: by gwj19 with SMTP id 19sf1576144gwj.1 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:52:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=xt/vp3QQuth64Fi6DYBvab4S3vp2MVDKMoU0+f4oN40=; b=z1oNuli+7cSFIup5Z9hPwHpcVhOjBtCE/C3XRvU3bTEU+IeNGx0nDGMctIdyJ9YOVV aW5nAfbQ9rQiI4gmAMXzXDva4mVJHMPhIMI0fcZPAbme/PKc28ELIPJtmq5zlDiKCIWD nsqq26t16ay2DidQtZAs2MRgaOm4rtraLjELI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=W8ZAYKLw3fMDtamRl2IXR1520jNK23mAB6ZrktygyoIHHX/iRB82DNypvH2KVzIz3G sn4D5dCpKRN+tQf9S7ueOG4Fw8D9bUEIXpBM7mJksXygDVA5p+PMlEJbEPO7nc4ZA9Q5 rJX2vcgqyndF2CWfwG7rySUR2zBonoIShRwVU= Received: by 10.90.71.9 with SMTP id t9mr88aga.38.1298173961669; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:52:41 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.200.3 with SMTP id eu3ls3857852ibb.1.p; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:52:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.160.209 with SMTP id o17mr689116ibx.19.1298173960735; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:52:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.160.209 with SMTP id o17mr689114ibx.19.1298173960711; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:52:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j25si831703ibb.4.2011.02.19.19.52.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:52:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.172; Received: by iym1 with SMTP id 1so5138622iym.17 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:52:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.206.208 with SMTP id fv16mr1838191ibb.132.1298173959530; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:52:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.200.198 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:52:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.200.198 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:52:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:52:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] lujvo making help request From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba4fc2f4b6ea92049caead63 --90e6ba4fc2f4b6ea92049caead63 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I forgot that part in the lujvo. Oops. Right, (((god existence)(impossible knowing))belief). Lujvo don't /have/ to include the rafsi for every gismu in the source bridi. I left out the tanru-super -scope cmavo in the tanru because I couldn't remember it and didn't think they were vitally needed for understanding. On Feb 19, 2011 6:45 PM, "Ian Johnson" wrote: Where'd tolcu'i go? Also, if you look at the tanru grouping, you have: (((god-kind-of-exist)-kind-of-impossible)-kind-of-know)-kind-of-believe which seems to be "believe that you can know that it's impossible for a god to exist", to me. {cevni zasti djuno tolcu'i krici} seems like the right tanru, with the lujvo changing analogously. mu'o mi'e .latros. On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > cevni zasti tolcu'i... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --90e6ba4fc2f4b6ea92049caead63 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I forgot that part in the lujvo. Oops.

Right, (((god existence)(impossible knowing))belief). Lujvo don't /h= ave/ to include the rafsi for every gismu in the source bridi. I left out t= he tanru-super -scope cmavo in the tanru because I couldn't remember it= and didn't think they were vitally needed for understanding.

On Feb 19, 2011 6:45 PM, "Ian Johnson&quo= t; <blindbravado@gmail.com= > wrote:

Where'd tolcu'i go?

Also, if you look at = the tanru grouping, you have:
(((god-kind-of-exist)-kind-of-impossible)-kind-of-know)-kind-of-believe
= which seems to be "believe that you can know that it's impossible = for a god to exist", to me. {cevni zasti djuno tolcu'i krici} seem= s like the right tanru, with the lujvo changing analogously.

mu'o mi'e .latros.



On Sat, Fe= b 19, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
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> cevni zasti tolcu'= i...

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