From lojban-beginners+bncCPSog_DDExCo_4jrBBoEJk4OTA@googlegroups.com Mon Feb 21 02:34:34 2011 Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PrT66-0001Fi-Pc; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:34:34 -0800 Received: by vxc33 with SMTP id 33sf180800vxc.16 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:34:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip :references:user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=r8dZ/cswzP+8dzbFdfYV5/kWsol1ivLw3LCOQdvpjdU=; b=6ABSCLTAHvsUEgwFF4orqQt6l6A3GOe29DdwLfvd3ap1dPd0vqNgu6lMOcsdVvdiWT 6JcLD528O4HS2H20c+0e3deYfRXbRCwi1VrjvJwO/+4bKXNGvb1cCDWtA5179bMDvhON S6OXDSQFzebfsqNApL2PiL/d4jJY7Go1C7Yww= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=u1sV4zRWPcrk3fs/PHWFSCrU1IM2rshtjguyqlHZD3dlpl1pOY3nBQia8MlCvtkKlh DBuefR1+PMdIXuNIwP4LtQiwR89rqLgxa5d/CXVd6DNo1NTnKlbGsDOwNig6NPElBCdu iVF7KQ5Ym5aLUsxqw6XrCrXlWGnmkbgbJJEzk= Received: by 10.220.183.76 with SMTP id cf12mr81920vcb.6.1298284456701; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:34:16 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.109.137 with SMTP id j9ls1325133vcp.0.p; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:34:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.183.76 with SMTP id cf12mr81918vcb.6.1298284455464; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:34:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by k18g2000vbq.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:34:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:34:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 46.64.55.45 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; U; en) Presto/2.7.62 Version/11.01,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <79730dd5-ff4e-4372-aab5-73ff6e023518@k18g2000vbq.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Complicated tenses From: tijlan To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: jbotijlan@googlemail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Feb 21, 3:23=A0am, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > {di'i} means regularly (over the time interval specified). =A0Is there a = way > to be more specific about the time between occurrences? =A0e.g. some even= t > happens every 23 days? da broda pa roi reci djedi "pa roi reci djedi" is one grammatical unit attached to the bridi "da broda". In this "PA roi SUMTI" construct, SUMTI specifies the interval over which the count PA is true. djedi2 is "one" by default, so "reci djedi" makes "twenty-three of that which is one full day in duration". Also correct may be "reci seldei", "a duration which is twenty-three full days". In both cases, "reci" quantifies a semantic body of a temporal interval, which is what "pa roi" takes. > Also, is it just me, or do termsets for explicit magnitudes, especially > single element ones for explicit distance with vague origin, seem really > awkward? If by "termsets" you mean CEhE, PEhE, NUhI and NUhU, the zasni gerna (http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3Dzasni+gerna+cenba +vreji) proposes that they be eliminated except for some special case. Could you remind me of an example of the usage in question? --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.