From lojban-beginners+bncCMuAoImuBxDc0pHrBBoEH4Mklw@googlegroups.com Tue Feb 22 17:57:02 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ps3yN-0001rU-0q; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:57:02 -0800 Received: by fxm10 with SMTP id 10sf1673952fxm.16 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:56:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qQKsqZAp3KG8QfgW38i6VYPyNBW9z+LP3YtdACEs/NU=; b=BbiABMDt3O5cK3t6E7SvbANmPy6X4LUZlEFC8ZdAdjNY7raUDPZeHiTcBii2O7AXho ZOy6YRyUSBB0fLiTNb5i7qp/qTEf258rLsUsHm4XZ1vvG9CdamPeobYMML5LDthYoKBI 8AH3ffACXVLnOnl2HrLB8lbRLEgsXS6OMfhlo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CeGJ5RCyIOpGiB2oMxyH6QJ7vGHadwvnUqBA7Glb4CuNdygkejiWMfKCG7QaDNJR4J ctA9JuhE9Od6sMFHtkR1XM9i8bBWdm4JVfI4FYnBeUuM9HeM3E5uO2+zLifqEDnthx63 eL7kOCY4EB7eCVt9oXoE/PZ2x9EqJ0WRFaZTw= Received: by 10.223.102.13 with SMTP id e13mr212954fao.39.1298426204487; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:56:44 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.160.8 with SMTP id l8ls161376fax.2.p; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:56:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.87.75 with SMTP id v11mr395801fal.22.1298426203192; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:56:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.87.75 with SMTP id v11mr395800fal.22.1298426203168; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:56:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k4si663809fax.6.2011.02.22.17.56.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:56:43 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jtorndorff@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.44; Received: by bwz13 with SMTP id 13so4148319bwz.17 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:56:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.24.76 with SMTP id rd12mr1689311bkb.166.1298426202853; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.181.147 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:56:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:56:42 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: {nal-} vs {nar-} From: Jameson Orndorff To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jtorndorff@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jtorndorff@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jtorndorff@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I want to say something like {nu'orselcei} or {nu'orceikri}, but I believe those imply that you have never believed, not just that you don't now. On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > No but the thought is that it's an absurd idea that a pencil should be > considered able to believe anything.=A0=A0 That's the point of na'e.=A0 I= t's there > to say "ok, you're on the right track but you ARE wrong". > > On Feb 22, 2011 8:26 PM, "Ivo Doko" wrote: >> On 23 February 2011 00:35, ianek wrote: >> >>> That way, a pencil is an atheist. >>> >> >> Are there any deities a pencil believes in? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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