From lojban-beginners+bncCKv97aq_GRCX4ZrrBBoEgeUrKQ@googlegroups.com Thu Feb 24 11:25:29 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PsgoY-0000UU-2C; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:25:29 -0800 Received: by fxm10 with SMTP id 10sf478410fxm.16 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:25:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :x-google-group-id:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=JVRuwfgvnS1T9XG51VfDTwTyaoiOvoCsfctbI4gp4wQ=; b=HU6OX+5XAEZ1Qd/BR8Rhs3h52pPfN9XHS/haTKGge0wpDPMFB1XFriFFVYLVHitFKa JyQUFhYa25OpE+V+6uijLAKnWRb64Hr+/8DS3cQlUJfMOLF+Q4PqV0BIuAorhEs+7RQH hBDfG0/XpHjyyc04syGaMFObDzvxkr6NfmVYI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:x-google-group-id:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=O/GjPhM20N5o3647TXBZZWkVpB9TQLyPNQBl1Px36mT1UP6qvxT5eFncQC1U3G+UrA w3PnzhEAj2qGweq9fP4Mrn7UJhLIZ+fY8rt1+1XcZNQiANfAL3UA9Ba2PTuHIIZC5L55 cSGoVTAL7Fm6zoNfPey5FgeR3WA4S2ip0FJ00= Received: by 10.223.61.197 with SMTP id u5mr55064fah.38.1298575511396; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:25:11 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.138.145 with SMTP id a17ls418626bku.1.p; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:25:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.72.140 with SMTP id m12mr158961bkj.16.1298575510479; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:25:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.72.140 with SMTP id m12mr158960bkj.16.1298575510451; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:25:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f52.google.com (mail-bw0-f52.google.com [209.85.214.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dd11si1759988bkb.4.2011.02.24.11.25.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:25:10 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lamelnyk@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.52; Received: by bwj24 with SMTP id 24so1271288bwj.11 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:25:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.140.70 with SMTP id h6mr1190265bku.117.1298575476786; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:24:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.75.194 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:24:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201102171403.40004.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201102171622.02738.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:24:36 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Question about {roda} From: Oleksii Melnyk To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lamelnyk@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lamelnyk@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lamelnyk@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Google-Group-Id: 94518172 Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c424e02069a049d0c2a97 --0015174c424e02069a049d0c2a97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2011/2/23 Michael Turniansky > 2) "ro da/de/di", without further qualification, refers to capital E > everything. > There are one and only one (unrestricted =E2=88=80x) in the (universe =E2= =88=AA outside of it). That one is very rarely used by humans. So, it is logical to use a bit longer "word" for it, freeing nice and short "roda", for much more common things. So, we could coin the lujvo, say "roldza", and use "ro da poi roldza" to explicitly state the universal discourse domain. --=20 mi'e lex mu'o --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --0015174c424e02069a049d0c2a97 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2011/2/23 Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com= >
=C2=A02) "ro da/de/di", without further qualific= ation, refers to capital E everything.

There are one and only one (unrestricted =E2=88= =80x) in the (universe =E2=88=AA outside of it). That one is very rarely us= ed by humans. So, it is logical to use a bit longer "word" for i= t, freeing nice and short "roda", for much more common things. So= , we could coin the lujvo, say "roldza", and use "ro da poi = roldza" to explicitly state the universal discourse domain.

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