From lojban-beginners+bncCML0xpmUARC9y5zrBBoE5dY-tQ@googlegroups.com Thu Feb 24 19:45:19 2011 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PsocF-0000nb-Jr; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:45:19 -0800 Received: by pwi1 with SMTP id 1sf242090pwi.16 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:45:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :x-google-group-id:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=I94wbnk4rbDG8Fv/4pkBssDhzKaotECv8l8x84rswyg=; b=3IBs5g5FZnxDXue71PDM7pifD2gwf+kuoGCmAir20pA0lZtu0ySZA9JXsandU7ENpq FpXiNMsNKYJ6SF5SREyYcrpRMr9S8MIljtfgVhb+5YRvOw6uTwV1dDvLsTdbxJo5RQ/H sqmHS1aL9DygSs+ptKlF87oS4nWezxR/q9n1Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:x-google-group-id:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=EFFruBpjqu+/HIOG+z+76sj7bmDQWkLVvv6o93EwHv1y9Hyr1NiRDhbl95N3di8AVv NlucMifkvFZetlocxRKialyRIRNsa2JrdeZfSyAeL6t+IkTKu31YqkrK++7ML0i1MM9i uDqjCw0TalxXe3rQyh8fsK1n5gLsO+rM2Ll1E= Received: by 10.142.131.14 with SMTP id e14mr112534wfd.19.1298605501689; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:45:01 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.201.17 with SMTP id y17ls1009946wff.1.p; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:45:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.199.9 with SMTP id w9mr251595wff.27.1298605500444; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:45:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.199.9 with SMTP id w9mr251594wff.27.1298605500369; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:45:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pz0-f47.google.com (mail-pz0-f47.google.com [209.85.210.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k41si224431wfa.7.2011.02.24.19.44.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:44:59 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.47; Received: by pzk12 with SMTP id 12so238653pzk.20 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:44:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.59.1 with SMTP id h1mr1260028wfa.258.1298605499139; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:44:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.53.5 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:44:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201102242234.15637.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201102241123.58373.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201102242234.15637.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:44:59 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: BAI zi'o From: Ian Johnson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Google-Group-Id: 94518172 Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=005045029c9e7ac7c6049d13270d --005045029c9e7ac7c6049d13270d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So you could imagine {broda TAG} == {rodbo'e}, more or less. That makes more sense than the previous idea and doesn't break anything conceptually. mu'o mi'e .latros. On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Thursday 24 February 2011 19:45:04 Ian Johnson wrote: > > That's inconsistent with what you said earlier. That is, if {no da} > > *really* works the same between both cases, then {lo du'u ko'a broda no > da > > cu nibli lo du'u ko'a na broda} and {lo du'u ko'a broda broda TAG no da > cu > > nibli lo du'u ko'a na broda} must both be true. I know the former is > true; > > you said the latter is false. > > {lo du'u ko'a broda TAG no da cu nibli lo du'u ko'a na broda TAG} is true. > TAG > adds an extra place to broda. > > Taking a concrete example, la .uacos. tcimpazi bau lo merxanbau .ije la > figan. > tcimpazi bau noda .i la figan. na tcimpazi bau .iku'i la figan. ja'a > tcimpazi > > mu'omi'e .pier. > -- > I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --005045029c9e7ac7c6049d13270d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So you could imagine {broda TAG} =3D=3D {rodbo'e}, more or less. That m= akes more sense than the previous idea and doesn't break anything conce= ptually.

mu'o mi'e .latros.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:<= br>
On Thursday 24 February 2011 19:45:04 Ian Johnson wrote:
> That's inconsistent with what you said earlier. That is, if {no da= }
> *really* works the same between both cases, then {lo du'u ko'a= broda no da
> cu nibli lo du'u ko'a na broda} and {lo du'u ko'a brod= a broda TAG no da cu
> nibli lo du'u ko'a na broda} must both be true. I know the for= mer is true;
> you said the latter is false.

{lo du'u ko'a broda TAG no da cu nibli lo du'u ko'a n= a broda TAG} is true. TAG
adds an extra place to broda.

Taking a concrete example, la .uacos. tcimpazi bau lo merxanbau .ije la fig= an.
tcimpazi bau noda .i la figan. na tcimpazi bau .iku'i la figan. ja'= a tcimpazi

mu'omi'e .pier.
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I believe in Yellow when I'm i= n Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.

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