From lojban-beginners+bncCK7Yk5CUCxDkjq_rBBoEwoa28g@googlegroups.com Mon Feb 28 08:10:04 2011 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pu5bm-0002ro-UO; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:09:08 -0800 Received: by qwk3 with SMTP id 3sf12481946qwk.16 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:03:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :x-google-group-id:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6XYQSdLUt/50xx55iBCHQEeL2bGJnOzX2J8WLQZje1w=; b=3EtMC+jOzJdyrMqAb70Q3dV5OPjCDsNWVcAlxRdG0m/vj8K6RA3mN4GB0k6yeFC8aD A/Jze6rvPYt4GcuK8+Wadfh1tNZM7KBAHTdSvPn2vY/18CDLxKAVJRg54ckvhAnix4QI CkMmd0jm/xXQvw4dafdXHJyyjKO4Ui+chO0sA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:x-google-group-id:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=GcJ2g/00KROsIyMbUpBx5Sphr0dSQtRJoQO6rKIjtQ3djk/iYByPlCNZDQyfUFYqL0 NOe2wlblWjJhr5F584kSKDMVX3IO2SD13eNoZswy9FNrvDIlcXFEbECgw+m3Lz+aZgtl H0m7KWmtDVoycKqs/3W849dAkbJTcWfAoc9p0= Received: by 10.224.80.213 with SMTP id u21mr316082qak.5.1298909028400; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:03:48 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.70.202 with SMTP id e10ls1523091qcj.1.p; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:03:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.251.134 with SMTP id ms6mr640950qcb.5.1298909027436; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:03:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.251.134 with SMTP id ms6mr640948qcb.5.1298909027415; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:03:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qy0-f181.google.com (mail-qy0-f181.google.com [209.85.216.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s6si898823qco.5.2011.02.28.08.03.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:03:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.181; Received: by mail-qy0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 14so3309912qyg.12 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:03:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.80.77 with SMTP id s13mr4295030qck.242.1298909026317; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.191.21 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:03:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9b728267-66e5-4514-8a4c-861c0ca64c93@u12g2000vbf.googlegroups.com> References: <9b728267-66e5-4514-8a4c-861c0ca64c93@u12g2000vbf.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:03:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Words for Politics and Economics From: Remo Dentato To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com, jbofanva@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Google-Group-Id: 94518172 Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable While some of the words are fairly general, I feel some are very specificy to US (like Democrat and Republican that, I guess, are the US major parties). Others seems to me very technical like "objectivism" (I have no idea who Ayn Rand is!) However I would love to see your first translations and start discussing the options! Probably the [jbofanva] group would be more appropriate, though. I would really love to see those words properly shaped in lojban. remod. On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Greendogo wrote: > So I checked some of the dictionaries floating about and I wasn't able > to find "words" to use in political discourse. =A0I made a list of > several words I'd like to know the Lojban equivalents for, including > some basic English nouns and words used to refer to people of > different political leanings: > > Politics > Economics > > Democrat > Republican > Libertarian/libertarianism > Liberal > Conservative > Socialist > Statist > > Liberty > Freedom > Slavery > > Property > Rights (natural rights) > Rights (guaranteed rights) > tax/taxation > > democracy > republicanism > capitalism > communism > socialism > fascism > dictatorship > monarchy > anarchy > > minarchism > anarcho-capitalism > > union (i.e. workers' union or teachers' union) > > objectivism (pre-Ayn Rand variety) > Objectivism (Ayn Rand variety) > Tribalism > > currency > fiat-currency > commodity > stock > stock market > bond > stock broker > recession > depression (economic variety) > boom-bust cycle > inflation > deflation > bubble (economic variety) > embargo > tariff > sanction > > corruption > monopoly > military > military-industrial complex > industry > business > corporation > population > citizen > migrant > immigrant > nation/country/state > nationalism > patriotism > spy > treason/traitor > border > war > civil war > revolution/revolt > terrorism > trade > enemy > ally > navy > army > air force > soldier > > propaganda > subterfuge > > president > senator > representative > congressman > parliament > general > king/queen > dictator > emperor/empress > sovereign > chieftain > prime minister > wanker > > constitution > bill > act > amendment > > political party > partisanship > > vote > pluralism > oligarchy > bureaucrat/bureaucratic/bureaucracy > rule > law > regulation > reform > repeal > > > Alright, I tried to come up with everything I could that wasn't too > far away from the subject of politics and economics. =A0I thought of > adding things in like nazi-ism or maoism, but they seemed to be too > specific for this beginning list. =A0I'm sure there's more, so feel free > to add in translations for words you think of on your own that fit the > topic. > > I know talking about politics on a forum is just asking for trouble, > so please don't get into any arguments about what's the best political > philosophy or anything like that if you can avoid it. =A0If you have a > translation for one of the words up above, you might also break it > down to show why the word is what it is, if applicable, but it isn't > necessary. > > Politics and language are my two great loves, so it would be nice to > have the words for my favorite subjects to talk about while learning > Lojban, hence the purpose of this thread. =A0Have fun! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscrib= e@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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