From lojban-beginners+bncCML0xpmUARCBkLbqBBoEWdcYyQ@googlegroups.com Sat Feb 05 09:25:45 2011 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PlltD-0007H4-0Q; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:25:44 -0800 Received: by pwi2 with SMTP id 2sf1215258pwi.16 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:25:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=PH7aNijGxsnXqF+gPVQMGlkOLsebKuaLc6/v+3QaISo=; b=WLm0/L7pg3TEVSyjImBPkels7zK4WGOV51/C9PueWIoQGZe6G7m+M9eIATELBy+iML kxSggQyf0xFxaz0BPAnVPkGnB60IvfW7Rkpmei+k7lYQXkiYf3lQ6OIVlyUon4zGh+id hVN/uiUYqJ/LPYmjLcuQQzMIz0dHgAgN86EZ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=l3CTxm+CN0MUdrg95075AAUKuI2+1Vhbk9mMblicEKccf+H9uT4wg2HMTFSds/XeDl B9v9iVFi64xXNcTGYn6UrMpKoxssR5VWjKIpL753WpueSMFYACtoE66YHeOzQT/WYwt/ jY4myga2OPZ8+FX23oHc9/cj+lA7QeC10ljTc= Received: by 10.142.178.6 with SMTP id a6mr820446wff.51.1296926721786; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:25:21 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.2.41 with SMTP id 41ls5876930wfb.0.p; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.178.17 with SMTP id a17mr468910wff.25.1296926720904; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.178.17 with SMTP id a17mr468909wff.25.1296926720828; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pv0-f171.google.com (mail-pv0-f171.google.com [74.125.83.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p40si2314858wfc.2.2011.02.05.09.25.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:25:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.171; Received: by pvg2 with SMTP id 2so839585pvg.2 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:25:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.86.17 with SMTP id j17mr13320868wfb.308.1296926719597; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:25:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.68.21 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 09:25:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201102050750.43795.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20110205170157.GA61729@alice.local> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 12:25:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] "Here" From: Ian Johnson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e9127b6bde02049b8c4811 --001636e9127b6bde02049b8c4811 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 .i ki'u ma lo prenu na ka'e se klama .i e'u lu ko klama mi li'u mu'o mi'e .latros. On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 10:01 AM, .alyn.post. < > alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote: > >> On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 03:15:15PM +0100, Remo Dentato wrote: >> > On Saturday, February 5, 2011, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> > > On Saturday 05 February 2011 07:15:16 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: >> > >> Is it reasonable to imply "here" with {zvati}? e.g. {mi zvati} for >> "I'm >> > >> here". Is it much better to use {bu'u} somehow? >> > > >> > > It can be implicit, but to be explicit I'd say "mi zvati ti". "mi bu'u >> zvati" >> > > means "I am where I am" >> > >> > I would say {bu'uku mi zvati} for "Here I am!" >> > >> > remod >> > >> >> I spent a fair bit of time speaking in Lojban to my nearest >> available 1 year old, and one phrase I hadn't quite figured >> out is "come here!" >> >> I gather that I could say: "ko bu'umi zvati" >> >> Good? Is there something better? I think I've been hung up >> on this one by the short and imperative nature of the English >> statement. >> >> -Alan >> -- >> .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi > > > "Come here!"? {ko klama ti}, of course. ;) > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu > do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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mu'o mi'e .latros.

On= Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 10:01 AM, .alyn.post. <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 03:15:15PM +0100, Remo Dentato wrote:
> On Saturday, February 5, 2011, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> > On Saturday 05 February 2011 07:15:16 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
> >> Is it reasonable to imply "here" with {zvati}? =A0e= .g. {mi zvati} for "I'm
> >> here". =A0Is it much better to use {bu'u} somehow? > >
> > It can be implicit, but to be explicit I'd say "mi zvati= ti". "mi bu'u zvati"
> > means "I am where I am"
>
> I would say {bu'uku mi zvati} for "Here I am!"
>
> remod
>

I spent a fair bit of time speaking in Lojban to my nearest
available 1 year old, and one phrase I hadn't quite figured
out is "come here!"

I gather that I could say: "ko bu'umi zvati"

Good? =A0Is there something better? =A0I think I've been hung up
on this one by the short and imperative nature of the English
statement.

-Alan
--
.i ko djuno fi le do sevzi

"Come he= re!"? {ko klama ti}, of course. ;)

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cm= ima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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