From lojban-beginners+bncCLr6ktCfBBDHqLjqBBoEvFq5-A@googlegroups.com Sat Feb 05 19:24:09 2011 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PlvEK-00022n-Ts; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 19:24:08 -0800 Received: by yxn35 with SMTP id 35sf2437523yxn.16 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 19:23:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; bh=Zf66zs5kefkwkQISlKSiKqc6xzv2s+L/ZOySPCWe4sk=; b=JPLcgonnFh9/KLNrJjTqaxXhIN87CLEqxBTDBsX5pi0TaEEUWAgh8Eu/vzWRND/y3D /matbcBBejKpUbOVbCltdFqGol58lDS0nuiSA9CHmkpKR79MjvQZQ2S4rrBfwhu3aMLO dmyuU57ttWkbpPj3ILsUMN1ifvFMZPvPwoZKo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; b=65ZI9FLwAl77pcLhzLCwR5MbGnneDI144NwA24l/4CCkJ6VjeA7LZ2z2lYgCryLe8n hVM4h7peMEFlzaf7bnYnprIp5+2aQ+MhY3qdK2XxuP3D+484Ow3/ZpbDKohKDih3va/q J3QbkwEPZ4UWupzHFcFS0noAOZFXWsocrC3Bo= Received: by 10.90.96.6 with SMTP id t6mr1044252agb.58.1296962631019; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 19:23:51 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.26.21 with SMTP id 21ls820382anz.2.p; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 19:23:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.252.4 with SMTP id z4mr3466441anh.44.1296962630251; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 19:23:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.252.4 with SMTP id z4mr3466440anh.44.1296962630200; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 19:23:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f50.google.com (mail-yw0-f50.google.com [209.85.213.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i10si1090145anh.8.2011.02.05.19.23.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 05 Feb 2011 19:23:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.213.50 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) client-ip=209.85.213.50; Received: by ywc21 with SMTP id 21so1390764ywc.9 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 19:23:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.111.19 with SMTP id v19mr1860363yhg.86.1296962629982; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 19:23:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunflowerriver.org (c-68-35-165-60.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.165.60]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m49sm1761218yha.2.2011.02.05.19.23.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 05 Feb 2011 19:23:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 20:23:44 -0700 From: ".alyn.post." To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] "Here" Message-ID: <20110206032344.GB62706@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com References: <4D4D89C7.7050904@perpetuum-immobile.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D4D89C7.7050904@perpetuum-immobile.de> X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.213.50 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 06:32:55PM +0100, Timo Paulssen wrote: > On 02/05/2011 01:15 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > > Is it reasonable to imply "here" with {zvati}? e.g. {mi zvati} for > > "I'm here". Is it much better to use {bu'u} somehow > > I personally like the sound of {bu'umemi} > > mu'o mi'e timos > That is very nice! I like it. It doesn't have the same imperative component that {ko} does, does it? It's this saying "something is coincindent with me"? -Alan -- .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.