From lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhCE3bfrBBoEDVdLbQ@googlegroups.com Tue Mar 01 23:15:35 2011 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PugHT-0002zi-7F; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:15:35 -0800 Received: by gyd10 with SMTP id 10sf4596111gyd.16 for ; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:15:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :x-google-group-id:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=JKgyol72gL6q8as64TAVi0p9KmCKT3JUFY/7PGghCbU=; b=tFOuMv91jlnrxlky7WcNY+LUdwMbl6dSueGianf98xz9QmNSXzlQFix/3QoJJg36OU 79Gso9dyiekBByxICN52LjN+JAknMs+Zrm5l9p+Jrwq7CumSxdvJa/DsFQOJSIQ+Cjjs O1de5cf2Mpv3ZRcI6cZSAQoNqKE6su1ZswNPg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:x-google-group-id:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=t6Qtg/pohCVKD8wI6pZ4NnCXiIQb/pK2ihxOTVy7AA1i2feosTnTiJ+IHK8o2BRdCE Svof83zf1BTwzGok1GZ6MOqzYKATnsszc9X8cxck5Ff6noGdNOjNlQ+lPiKkPFnuNfH8 maEnzEVE6BqcIbXfNgiYerXLStEiy3tXunXvA= Received: by 10.101.126.12 with SMTP id d12mr400849ann.61.1299050116703; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:15:16 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.67.68 with SMTP id q4ls844846ibi.3.p; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.11.193 with SMTP id u1mr2385995ibu.7.1299050115789; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.11.193 with SMTP id u1mr2385994ibu.7.1299050115752; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com (mail-iw0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c4si859249ict.4.2011.03.01.23.15.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.169; Received: by mail-iw0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 42so6489171iwl.14 for ; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:15:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.11.200 with SMTP id u8mr7080164ibu.151.1299050115591; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.200.211 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 23:15:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201103012238.38772.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 00:15:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] More than five places? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Google-Group-Id: 94518172 Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022152d6959af6f8f049d7aac80 --0022152d6959af6f8f049d7aac80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Based on my understanding of the definitions, it seems reasonable to me that {fai} can easily be considered to be {faxixa}. It even has zo'o the right letters. On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > actually I've seen usage like {se nelci mi fai do} which I *think* is > supposed to mean something like {do jai se nelci mi} > > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >> On Tuesday 01 March 2011 16:30:03 Jonathan Jones wrote: >> > I didn't know about the SExiPA method. It's interesting, but I think >> I'll >> > stick with FAxiPA on the rare occasions when it matters. :) >> > >> > What about {fai}? Is it applicable in these situations? >> >> No, {fai} is meaningful only when {jai} is also present. >> >> Pierre >> -- >> The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --0022152d6959af6f8f049d7aac80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Based on my understanding of the definitions, it seems reasonable to me tha= t {fai} can easily be considered to be {faxixa}. It even has zo'o the r= ight letters.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:4= 7 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
actually I've= seen usage like {se nelci mi fai do} which I think=A0is supposed to= mean something like {do jai se nelci mi}


On Tue, Mar= 1, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wro= te:
On Tuesday 0= 1 March 2011 16:30:03 Jonathan Jones wrote:
> I didn't know about the SExiPA method. It's interesting, but I= think I'll
> stick with FAxiPA on the rare occasions when it matters. :)
>
> What about {fai}? Is it applicable in these situations?

No, {fai} is meaningful only when {jai} is also present.

Pierre
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