From lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhDL5bfrBBoEBHdyWQ@googlegroups.com Tue Mar 01 23:33:53 2011 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PugZB-0004Bd-M4; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:33:53 -0800 Received: by gyd10 with SMTP id 10sf4620198gyd.16 for ; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:33:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :x-google-group-id:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=E483LBP/+AhjiRnx+ivYybIjY7FkTpRDINQuTIHAgZY=; b=V7Cq4AaPoPPzmHwb1d5BJHSaQ+BkUhyXPuk/pxUHvAWowKpwAwG7b6vXEbM/TFK3kx 4g+vibE+sW6rdcZUAaTEgi3rbKwt7o6u4f6wVLOiaxAY0C9LmwkQoLWnJ3Uz8Wk/PAbk /5Gw7VV5zCpNJLC4Qy0WdmO5AxL6H1kU/Ui08= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:x-google-group-id:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=vmbF0BcgW9JuTb+Q/p2VvWoQrJn4Of49IKW5vIp2fCAZMShoRPetPy2g/DppiOXqoe KtQKNoWEtg/UKYJQ2u+dSbbDRj2uweYvekeDQulvtGbuPRaI2NrqgE3WMwG7k8u6wuYD 0MTaST789LIweNOjkXDen9psTLweEjLGUav5w= Received: by 10.91.169.18 with SMTP id w18mr894954ago.21.1299051211179; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:33:31 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.67.68 with SMTP id q4ls856669ibi.3.p; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:33:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.188.78 with SMTP id cz14mr413972ibb.6.1299051210002; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:33:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.188.78 with SMTP id cz14mr413971ibb.6.1299051209918; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:33:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f171.google.com (mail-iy0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d9si1272503ibq.3.2011.03.01.23.33.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:33:29 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.171; Received: by mail-iy0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 40so6126314iyf.16 for ; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:33:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.170.132 with SMTP id f4mr7948307icz.255.1299051209555; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:33:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.200.211 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 23:33:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201103012238.38772.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 00:33:29 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] More than five places? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Google-Group-Id: 94518172 Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba613664e3ff96049d7aed40 --90e6ba613664e3ff96049d7aed40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > haha, I don't know why {fai} would get the special privilege of being > {faxixa}. Why shouldn't that honor go to {bai}? {by. na mintu fy.} > Also, since there are lujvo with 6 places and more, wouldn't you want to > call fai something that won't change. How about {faxini'upa} or something > ;) > Wow, the first step into the nether realm. You must not much like {jai} if you imagine shoving it through Vortex Zero. :) On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> Based on my understanding of the definitions, it seems reasonable to me >> that {fai} can easily be considered to be {faxixa}. It even has zo'o the >> right letters. >> >> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: >> >>> actually I've seen usage like {se nelci mi fai do} which I *think* is >>> supposed to mean something like {do jai se nelci mi} >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >>> >>>> On Tuesday 01 March 2011 16:30:03 Jonathan Jones wrote: >>>> > I didn't know about the SExiPA method. It's interesting, but I think >>>> I'll >>>> > stick with FAxiPA on the rare occasions when it matters. :) >>>> > >>>> > What about {fai}? Is it applicable in these situations? >>>> >>>> No, {fai} is meaningful only when {jai} is also present. >>>> >>>> Pierre >>>> -- >>>> The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu >> do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gma= il.com> wrote:
haha, I don't know why {fai} would get the special=A0privilege of being= {faxixa}. =A0Why shouldn't that honor go to {bai}?
<= br>{by. na mintu fy.}
=A0
=A0Also, since there are lujvo with 6 places and more, wouldn't you wan= t to call fai something that won't change. =A0How about {faxini'upa= } or something ;)

Wow, the first step into the net= her realm. You must not much like {jai} if you imagine shoving it through V= ortex Zero. :)

On Wed, Mar 2,= 2011 at 2:15 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
<= /div>
Based on my understanding of the definitions, it seems reasonable to me tha= t {fai} can easily be considered to be {faxixa}. It even has zo'o the r= ight letters.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
=
actually I've seen usage like {se nelci mi fai do} whic= h I think=A0is supposed to mean something like {do jai se nelci mi}<= /div>


On = Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
On Tuesday 0= 1 March 2011 16:30:03 Jonathan Jones wrote:
> I didn't know about the SExiPA method. It's interesting, but I= think I'll
> stick with FAxiPA on the rare occasions when it matters. :)
>
> What about {fai}? Is it applicable in these situations?

No, {fai} is meaningful only when {jai} is also present.

Pierre
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