From lojban-beginners+bncCNTPpI2KGxCRuP3rBBoEe-Bajw@googlegroups.com Tue Mar 15 05:31:34 2011 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PzTPN-0002UD-UH; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 05:31:34 -0700 Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36sf1314755qyk.16 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 05:31:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis :x-cloudmark-score:x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=mySSVOpTfCH+IRgLdQKuvNy106B3yBMjCg+aiLcudQo=; b=M2RoargncyE9pam7dw/8iURBUdgvEMO/ztQnizgmGDCNIK5PkU24bcwO+WiJVYmsfw LsuHE8CRePPNamlv3AFapaBI43AGF+pY0Y659HIdLR+WXsNrYVmILBi/OFowx1sfWMc/ n9/iHL0hKlkpD1k5hl+mkuuUtsguSs8zdNJtg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=SBOSej1S9xOTXG6th3WhDHyobxar/3qNxiO0mAvS6LAz48YHicFObxXDiLaySVOoVO 4kdsTkYg2Yow32iwnlkqofYqednHA59XZ0koNdoNuGxkeLflCfD0jEUKqLJiWEhDl44d +HsfBRMWtPm3ztzj6fvvw0Va1kfv8pE5IbxEE= Received: by 10.229.69.28 with SMTP id x28mr2287730qci.36.1300192273065; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 05:31:13 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.195.134 with SMTP id ec6ls202821qcb.2.p; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 05:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.31.13 with SMTP id w13mr1329331qcc.22.1300192272232; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 05:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.31.13 with SMTP id w13mr1329330qcc.22.1300192272214; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 05:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id i16si1694637qco.11.2011.03.15.05.31.10; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 05:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ToWar1fa9ljTHbeJIRNQycBnYxCRNi5M/11QAwRcJ6A= c=1 sm=0 a=zhqEnMm3IUoA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=mcE7aY93jPPxEfPvWmEA:9 a=ZlvNmg_GwvlvWbQHIJd6uXhaV-EA:4 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:55677] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id E7/84-29678-E0C5F7D4; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:31:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584495747 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 08:31:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] plus or minus Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 08:31:06 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201103150831.08480.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 15 March 2011 08:19:16 Luke Bergen wrote: > If I want to say "5 plus or minus 2" what is the quickest way to do that in > lojban. I looked through PA* and didn't see anything useful. > > Note: I'm not looking for {li su'o ci su'e ze}. This I would translate as > (somewhere between 3 and 7). I'm looking for a quick and clean way to say > "5 but I could be wrong by as much as 2 in either direction". "li mu mi'i re". If you use "mu mi'i re" as a quantifier in a sumti, you have to say "vei", e.g. "mi viska vei mu mi'i re". To use the number itself as a sumti, say for example "mi mitre li papimu mi'i pinore". mu'omi'e pier. -- Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.