From lojban-beginners+bncCNTPpI2KGxDkvv3rBBoEZI8UlA@googlegroups.com Tue Mar 15 05:45:41 2011 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PzTd4-0004ea-3j; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 05:45:41 -0700 Received: by qwh5 with SMTP id 5sf1349767qwh.16 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 05:45:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis :x-cloudmark-score:x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=qevn3GaWWKGx1cfhflfeo6y2OUfzdhxDvO9C9hlBLHk=; b=f3gmIJc/SrdtJ4epHeYBNABK/ilPWc6y9HXiwbSvo6T4icg5C9wB/Ig2JmqWiUW9yZ iS0o481Cc9cTHbXpIxJff6yguAAKqqVmfTqYEt05iqYhvchY8pn1ScOyPs3r3YnX6SB8 2ooHmUHeev6GCLZlRYfdYgZbiDAb1jJZCWh0U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=F3mIhdFCuoM5GQoIczI7tVfMl5zk31yx7F3/Li7aGqSNA0x4de1W0nhUQEXEzWg6Xe siOMjS0W77IB406sFIHzgfgyHA/btEa5UjLF4QWdrj/tC9RTSsStsHIxIyfU79r9hiDT y+VjtWFg4pwrjEFS3LIMhbG/8nN3iyR9hsVWI= Received: by 10.224.39.17 with SMTP id d17mr399889qae.31.1300193124229; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 05:45:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.176.70 with SMTP id bd6ls108661qab.5.p; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 05:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.70.140 with SMTP id d12mr1283335qaj.10.1300193123701; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 05:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.70.140 with SMTP id d12mr1283334qaj.10.1300193123694; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 05:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e20si1699903qck.1.2011.03.15.05.45.22; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 05:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.120; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ToWar1fa9ljTHbeJIRNQycBnYxCRNi5M/11QAwRcJ6A= c=1 sm=0 a=zhqEnMm3IUoA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=TeIqnp3vE1zlGGjYVXAA:9 a=-A2ZAU3nWWmvfI6qlK6mvHwhtgMA:4 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:60352] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 53/7D-29678-16F5F7D4; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:45:21 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31ECF8A1 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 08:45:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] plus or minus Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 08:45:08 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <201103150831.08480.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201103150845.10857.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 15 March 2011 08:36:16 Luke Bergen wrote: > ooo nice. So if I wanted to say "I was attacked by 5 plus/minus 2 dogs" I > would do {mi se gunta vei mu mi'ire lo gerku}? Or would I have to close > the {vei} with {ve'o}? > > Is {vei} just kind of like magic that says "here comes math so treat it > like a number"? "vei" is an opening parenthesis for mathematical expressions. If you follow the mex with something that can't be part of a mex, "ve'o" is assumed. I'm not sure why "vei" is required; it's probably some construction that would be ambiguous. Pierre -- Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.