From lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhDJ0KTsBBoE2YuRCQ@googlegroups.com Tue Mar 22 15:53:17 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2ARu-0001Jp-ED; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:53:17 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf5621315fxm.16 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:53:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=U/Y8H+c5F6y+ZFc4XKbaS6aj9E85EWfW0PbfVn8Tvho=; b=59/wdbyEf2ITqQCDb7hFyCSCemQQTjIufYVg5IJJVCrwYNryq/S9twOvskgZH9Q3um toXRC0pqXMOa9JWSYGs+W+W3uspKuKE7rAoF6qFsoIlUh5D1zI7PO5ng+3qRoscba/EY l05ZKz3bIV8mX6gWb7Q4NFJTzoAgYiJwlsZHU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=ypr50hj0mUHrk4JUzXkROz+1Cog67ALz8N6MADxo7lMvYCSzNmeUEQuSq8yz4kvDws 5wN+X6xafFxOanKeon7j+b0e/ld5bI0V8cROL8VzBIJKrqX2QxZjkJdspZE7vb++iLs4 D0J0gLewUEt8dIdO+R4sFg6YE18VtjaDr6HsM= Received: by 10.223.145.78 with SMTP id c14mr479158fav.42.1300834377080; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:52:57 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.32.68 with SMTP id b4ls2284815fad.0.p; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.62.75 with SMTP id w11mr786667fah.26.1300834375694; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.62.75 with SMTP id w11mr786666fah.26.1300834375665; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f52.google.com (mail-fx0-f52.google.com [209.85.161.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r28si649235fam.4.2011.03.22.15.52.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.52; Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so6767600fxm.25 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:52:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.6.11 with SMTP id 11mr7124758fax.103.1300834374492; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.74.201 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:52:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8814818.617.1300823206876.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prcm18> References: <8814818.617.1300823206876.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prcm18> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:52:54 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747849ecda11d049f1a1a11 --00151747849ecda11d049f1a1a11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think a message qualifies as a thing. On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Lindar wrote: > > "ti" refers to a place or thing. I think "di'u" is much more appropriate. >> > > Second. > {ti} is demonstrative for things in physical space. We have {di'u} for > -this very reason-. It's like insisting on calling a gorilla a "monkey". > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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O= n Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com> wrote:<= br>

"ti" refers to a place or thing. I think "di'u"= ; is much more appropriate.

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{ti} is demonstrative for things in physical space. We have = {di'u} for -this very reason-. It's like insisting on calling a gor= illa a "monkey".

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