From lojban-beginners+bncCNzDnoiEDxDYi8LtBBoElthv8A@googlegroups.com Thu Apr 21 12:30:48 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QCzaN-0002bC-Ep; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:30:47 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf45287fxm.16 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:30:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=kdKoM9v6dknz76HO8q0i5GzCVcCgI6Y+resDyQ486P8=; b=h5Q8MaYe9Hdo69S2tjWl8ccjhMh4fsQ0Vl+oBfxQ0QDn/dkPIiAqiv2PBZqWzAnjKr Ay1QGJjfSvD/pM5HFiTLEVz1RQpMy5WiLD9nK7RKucl0yoMC9yMFZsBiadTebMGHAFcx 3tRB8atpfYG3epIJJUSZRpmvgcSeI67sKXMfk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=ACRB1NjsnXWp6R0rLaoyyPaG0hm+awGgu0x1Th87LdBipm4EehLUZkKbvHnAvmYq1V 8CFLsCtlyl9wND+DhSo61WD7ePbxw9zXXec4LHuz69ia7hTOfNNFcj6GjoviCBfrHVyq NIBxKDBeRMR/abXnut2IIgehZ1MNkzEuzytcQ= Received: by 10.223.121.83 with SMTP id g19mr113787far.48.1303414232147; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:30:32 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.78.196 with SMTP id m4ls894963fak.0.gmail; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.83.139 with SMTP id f11mr22549fal.0.1303414231056; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.83.139 with SMTP id f11mr22548fal.0.1303414231021; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f53.google.com (mail-fx0-f53.google.com [209.85.161.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c13si228078fak.8.2011.04.21.12.30.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of pretoriusjf@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.53; Received: by fxm8 with SMTP id 8so53549fxm.12 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.127.197 with SMTP id h5mr352565fas.36.1303414229604; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.87.1 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.87.1 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110421123557.GA71258@alice.local> References: <20110421123557.GA71258@alice.local> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:30:26 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] vlastezba: First beta version released! From: Johan Pretorius To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: pretoriusjf@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of pretoriusjf@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=pretoriusjf@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023545309c8269b4604a172c638 --0023545309c8269b4604a172c638 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Alan I certainly intend to! (that is, both fix the errors and add regression tests) The next week or two is an excellent time for it too. I spent today travelling, hopefully tomorrow will afford me a few hours to focus on this. Thank you for the comparitive testing you did! It is something I might not have thought of, left to my own devices :-) -Johan sent from my X10 Mini On 21 Apr 2011 2:36 PM, ".alyn.post." wrote: Attached you'll find a copy of cmavo.txt and gismu.txt with only the actual words retained. The definition and class information has been removed. I run this file through jbogenturfa'i one line at a time and output all of the words seen on each line. This file is called baseline.txt. I did the same for vlastezba, creating output.txt. I've also attached the script I used to run vlastezba, which works around the two previously reported issues with the parser (one of which you've already fixed.) The file diff.txt is a comparison between jbogenturfa'i and vlastezba. While this is not an exhaustive test (earlier issues I reported are not covered by these test cases), I do consider it a sort of minimal test. There are no lujvo, fu'ivla, cmene, or non-Lojban words here, however. vlastezba crashes on 80 of the 2433 tests. For the remaining tests, it produces results consistent with jbogenturfa'i. I suspect most of these tests are crashing on the same or nearly the same problem; they're clustered in the input around certain word forms. Will you fix your program so it no longer crashes on these 80 lines? Will you add regression testing for these cases so you can verify that the program still works after changes? -Alan On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:02:28AM +0200, Johan Pretorius wrote: > Hi all > > You can download it from here: > [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlastezba/files/vlastezba.jar/download > > I have completed the cmavo cluster breakout code, and tested it as far as > I was able. >... > [2]pretoriusjf@gmail.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginner... > References > > Visible links > 1. http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlastezba/files/vlastezba.jar/download > 2. mailto:pretoriusjf@gmail.com -- .i ma'a lo bradi ku penmi gi'e du -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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Hi Alan

I certainly intend to! (that is, both fix the errors and add regression = tests) The next week or two is an excellent time for it too.=A0 I spent tod= ay travelling, hopefully tomorrow will afford me a few hours to focus on th= is.

Thank you for the comparitive testing you did! It is something I might n= ot have thought of, left to my own devices :-)

-Johan
sent from my X10 Mini

On 21 Apr 2011 2:36 PM, ".alyn.post."= ; <alyn.post@lodockiku= mazvati.org> wrote:

Attached you'll find a copy of cmavo.= txt and gismu.txt with only the
actual words retained. =A0The definition and class information has
been removed. =A0I run this file through jbogenturfa'i one line at a time and output all of the words seen on each line. =A0This file is
called baseline.txt. =A0I did the same for vlastezba, creating
output.txt. =A0I've also attached the script I used to run vlastezba, which works around the two previously reported issues with the
parser (one of which you've already fixed.)

The file diff.txt is a comparison between jbogenturfa'i and
vlastezba. =A0While this is not an exhaustive test (earlier issues
I reported are not covered by these test cases), I do consider it a
sort of minimal test. =A0There are no lujvo, fu'ivla, cmene, or
non-Lojban words here, however.

vlastezba crashes on 80 of the 2433 tests. =A0For the remaining tests,
it produces results consistent with jbogenturfa'i. =A0I suspect most of these tests are crashing on the same or nearly the same problem;
they're clustered in the input around certain word forms.

Will you fix your program so it no longer crashes on these 80 lines?
Will you add regression testing for these cases so you can verify
that the program still works after changes?

-Alan


On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:02:28AM +0200, Jo= han Pretorius wrote:

> Hi all>
> You can download it from here:

> =A0 =A0[1]<= a href=3D"http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlastezba/files/vlastezba.jar/dow= nload" target=3D"_blank">http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlastezba/files/vl= astezba.jar/download

>
> I have completed the cmavo clus= ter breakout code, and tested it as far as
> I was able.
>..= .

> =A0 =A0[2]pretori= usjf@gmail.com
>
> =A0 =A0--

> You received this message because you ar= e subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Lojban Beginner...

> References
>
> =A0 =A0Visible links
> =A0 =A01. http://sourceforge.net/projects/vl= astezba/files/vlastezba.jar/download

> 2. mailto:pretoriusjf@gmail.com

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