From lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhCk3MftBBoEzoAXxg@googlegroups.com Fri Apr 22 14:08:04 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QDNa3-0003AD-G7; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:08:03 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf1159721fxm.16 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:07:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=GBTZPc1t/BCF4dAx01HGcy/ycSJyduawrOc1tnuA9oI=; b=zPHtjkxyDnRWJ1NMN6uAqQMz6oX2OfQgg6cUQItb0sRh1DXzo4caaKaRhlJx1Ub3J7 nc5YBwvYitY5S0pjemC3CFGBncWCogUL/+DKaZlEOwLcscKCPFIkedqTEbCDVtOdcNv0 amU4uDjLgi2otV90bWftMut0BJ7sKHxIHRpho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=bmMukHAjGLOIFRA4aBZ0CS2LulLx5Zvo/ZKCgA1aUO3xCe9iUNWDt/f6+v8gweCFKt c5ceh3VY1JMYkzY391kiWaogOSk2Tdu5yYMOVb1Z9L5L8YedxsUdyuw35UX9ElLvKE01 vcc3Eh/gaOsxnFkfyU/pGsHNhIxFIwF8gELxc= Received: by 10.223.78.142 with SMTP id l14mr412983fak.27.1303506468228; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:07:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.78.196 with SMTP id m4ls1124642fak.0.gmail; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.36.141 with SMTP id t13mr103055fad.25.1303506467145; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.36.141 with SMTP id t13mr103054fad.25.1303506467121; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f50.google.com (mail-bw0-f50.google.com [209.85.214.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c13si342355fak.8.2011.04.22.14.07.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.50; Received: by mail-bw0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 2so962090bwz.37 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:07:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.126.144 with SMTP id c16mr1236262bks.6.1303506466874; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.191.80 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:07:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110421123557.GA71258@alice.local> <20110422042758.GE79918@alice.local> <20110422172338.GA80702@alice.local> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:07:46 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] vlastezba: First beta version released! From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6daa892eba75204a1883f5a --0016e6daa892eba75204a1883f5a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Johan Pretorius wrote: > Thanks! > > Looking at the comparison, I spotted these bugs in vlastezba: > > 1. For some reason, {bybycy} and {bycy} don't fall apart. I expect > them to, they're cmavo clusters. > 2. Same thing with {mycy} > 3. Same thing with {pycy} > 4. Same thing with {lety} > 5. vlastezba does not ignore case (it should... in cmavo_list, > vlastezba does not break apart these two at all: {cu'uko'aBAI*}, > {da'aremoiMOI*} > > And these, which appear to be bugs in jbogenturfa'i: > > 1. It seems to think {jefyfa'o} is not a cmavo cluster. > 2. Same thing with {ticyve'u} > 3. Same thing with {cikygau} > 4. Same thing with {vacysai} > > That's because they're lujvo. > > 1. > > cmavo_list have two entries that have asterisks as their last character. > As far as I understand, asterisks mean nothing in Lojban. Does that mean we > need to ignore them (i.e. delete them from the input stream?) > > And I just realized I had been rude - I never sent you my output files! My > apologies, they're attached now. > > I'm really excited that we're getting such close results! > > Cheers, > Johan > > > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:23 PM, .alyn.post. < > alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote: > >> I have run these four files through jbogenturfahi with the --rafske >> option. I have attached both the raw output[1] and the post-processed >> output[2]. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Johan P= retorius <pre= toriusjf@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks!

Looking at the comparison, I spotted these bugs in vlastezba= :
  1. For some reason, {bybycy} and {bycy} don't fall apart.=A0 = I expect them to, they're cmavo clusters.
  2. Same thing with {mycy= }
  3. Same thing with {pycy}
  4. Same thing with {lety}
  5. vlast= ezba does not ignore case (it should... in cmavo_list, vlastezba does not b= reak apart these two at all: {cu'uko'aBAI*}, {da'aremoiMOI*}
And these, which appear to be bugs in jbogenturfa'i:
    <= li>It seems to think {jefyfa'o} is not a cmavo cluster.
  1. Same th= ing with {ticyve'u}
  2. Same thing with {cikygau}
  3. Same thin= g with {vacysai}

That's because they're lujvo.
<= /div>
cmavo_list have two entries that have asterisks as their last cha= racter.=A0 As far as I understand, asterisks mean nothing in Lojban.=A0 Doe= s that mean we need to ignore them (i.e. delete them from the input stream?= )

And I just realized I had been rude - I never sent you my output files!= =A0 My apologies, they're attached now.

I'm really excited t= hat we're getting such close results!

Cheers,
Johan



On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:23 PM, .alyn.post.= <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
I have run these four files through jbogenturfahi with the --rafske
option. =A0I have attached both the raw output[1] and the post-processed output[2].

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