From lojban-beginners+bncCMLaiI6rCBDQ3OfsBBoEtVDo3A@googlegroups.com Mon Apr 04 09:14:30 2011 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6mQ2-0000Rb-Hk; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:14:30 -0700 Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3sf2845971gxk.16 for ; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:14:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:mime-version:date:x-ip:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3tvCtKFcW29AZR6oP8JtHP7XVf9Eqd+duoGFsAIbshw=; b=gxOC1bR8y71r5SC1sH6cEAOEFtzh1SKCy8hbcAesXInQ8O/OimIqN4WpN28fOtCSlE BZ81Y3GGZYl1CGj0RscGKNTtoU7J6APvMAde6evaY6GVlzBdOeSfQTTwHQsiyEKaS4/K Mjh2RxEPoZnQO4idlzogZeNPLBy1Q5AjMunLE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:x-ip:user-agent:x-http-useragent :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=iM6XfKSZfwGQFH90V5jacQgwFmcHKH85g+xnCjUdVLqBVi9EhMj3P3kPX7F5a+5PnP ugcJYB+HO+aFn+2H4HG/pingXuMETihG/Et42V45O4oYVWoBKp5Lm0AMvHwQHM5raMKU HvV+afHAle8e9G8W12/m25rlMcY1Ti8tSLHsQ= Received: by 10.91.200.27 with SMTP id c27mr1313767agq.22.1301933648728; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:14:08 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.200.24 with SMTP id c24ls1176915agq.2.p; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:14:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.208.16 with SMTP id k16mr1297719agq.28.1301933647459; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by r13g2000yqk.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:14:07 -0700 (PDT) X-IP: 89.72.45.166 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.16 (KHTML, like Gecko) Ubuntu/10.10 Chromium/10.0.648.133 Chrome/10.0.648.133 Safari/534.16,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <1318bae0-c08d-4a6d-9483-b9ca6c726a53@r13g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] a question about logical tanru connectives From: ianek To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: janek37@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 coi Do logical tanru connectives bind ommited arguments? For example, when I say "broda je brode", does this mean that lo broda = le brode? Of course if I say "mi broda je brode", then lo broda = lo brode = mi. What about "zo'e broda je brode"? I understand leaving empty sumti places is equivalent to putting zo'e. Finally: in common usage are sentences like "ti melbi je xamgu" and I don't think they are intended to mean that the beauty aspect (lo te melbi) is equal to the standard of goodness (lo te xamgu). What about "ti melbi je xamgu fi zo'e"? mu'o mi'e ianek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.