From lojban-beginners+bncCK3S9MPqERCZ7c7tBBoEGrpysA@googlegroups.com Sat Apr 23 22:35:37 2011 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QDrym-0001Qr-UH; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:35:36 -0700 Received: by qwh5 with SMTP id 5sf5402464qwh.16 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:35:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=VQny9nfOANSgz5d8FHg/rMbBV14Fg08yrdlmEc1QZhg=; b=UX2vusLzEICcUAh3hkw1ehdaK27fT8vJ0psw4mDN1cW6bvk/cod1JyKBNsrMMTYfSL DlY0ONPK7luESYum1JyHKCAfd2mAkRzwmdh5GAFeN6LTzbLl9E8m98tDBawsz5BYJFXZ BJgGqPCre7+4D/OGrPBfmFmFqoRmvw+ieMZJ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=4VkUQ0i/ShJGRp7y8Jf8EjJk3XPmPBdFpZNNjs01scCuUjg/OnAILJgvMHpDMyXuJv VRlSXa9Y7UwQevk+OefswEfhVVxmhiwISYbsWQYvgH9hZSO9SbwidD3/83E4vTLzUUk1 D2TfXjeTjYYhn6liHh4DlcO8YfyzYD5Oe68rM= Received: by 10.229.227.200 with SMTP id jb8mr400753qcb.43.1303623321942; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:35:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.207.201 with SMTP id fz9ls757365qab.3.gmail; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.190.71 with SMTP id dh7mr137030qab.20.1303623321262; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.190.71 with SMTP id dh7mr137029qab.20.1303623321250; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f50.google.com (mail-vw0-f50.google.com [209.85.212.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c2si938932qca.8.2011.04.23.22.35.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of skaryzgik@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.50; Received: by vws14 with SMTP id 14so1337050vws.9 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:35:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.71.166 with SMTP id w6mr434064vdu.301.1303623320745; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.161.97 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:35:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 00:35:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] letter(as in note)/email endings? From: Marjorie Scherf To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: skaryzgik@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of skaryzgik@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=skaryzgik@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071ce6cf4365a04a1a3741a --20cf3071ce6cf4365a04a1a3741a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Firstly, yes, I'm trying to get back into things. School happened, stuff happened, and most of the time both were happening at the same time. But now I'm trying to get back into this. I've revived my twitter and started a tumblr and Blip.fm and flickr, and in my recent communications saw another style of signature, and I was wondering how this works. You make a very good point, as do Alex and Pierre. I thank all of you very much for the clarification. .uicai .i mu'o mi'e la .jdakrat.skaryzgik. On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 21:09, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Marjorie Scherf wrote: > >> It appears that common practice for ending emails is to have {mu'o mi'e >> _______ } where "________" is the name, but I recently noticed an email >> signature in which the writer used {mi'e ________ mu'o} which, once I >> thought about it, seems to make more sense. If {mu'o} is supposed to signal >> the end of the transmission, anything after that would be disregarded, and >> the self-introduction conventionally put at the end of emails and letters, >> if put after the {mu'o} instead of before, would seem to be excluded from >> the message. So when I actually think about it, it seems like {mi'e >> _________ mu'o} would make more sense than the more common {mu'o mi'e >> ________ } I more commonly see. I'm wondering whether my friend has has an >> insight missed by the majority of the most vocal lojbanists, or if there is >> some reason for the common form that I have not yet considered. >> >> .i mi'e la .jdakrat.skaryzgik. mu'o >> > > Firstly, are you the same skaryzgik that hasn't been on here in a very, > very long time? > > Secondly, mu'o is much like the English "Sincerely,". Anything that comes > after it is not to be taken as pertaining to the conversation. > > Jon Jones, > Sincerely > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --20cf3071ce6cf4365a04a1a3741a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Firstly, yes, I'm trying to get back into things. School happened, stuf= f happened, and most of the time both were happening at the same time. But = now I'm trying to get back into this. I've revived my twitter and s= tarted a tumblr and Blip.fm and flickr, and in my recent communications saw= another style of signature, and I was wondering how this works. You make a= very good point, as do Alex and Pierre. I thank all of you very much for t= he clarification. .uicai

.i mu'o mi'e la .jdakrat.skaryzgik.


On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 21:09, Jonathan = Jones <eyeonus@gm= ail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 7:38 P= M, Marjorie Scherf <skaryzgik@gmail.com> wrote:
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It appears that common practice for ending emails is to have {mu'o mi&#= 39;e _______ } =A0where "________" is the name, but I recently no= ticed an email signature in which the writer used {mi'e ________ mu'= ;o} which, once I thought about it, seems to make more sense. If {mu'o}= is supposed to signal the end of the transmission, anything after that wou= ld be disregarded, and the self-introduction conventionally put at the end = of emails and letters, if put after the {mu'o} instead of before, would= seem to be excluded from the message. So when I actually think about it, i= t seems like {mi'e _________ mu'o} would make more sense than the m= ore common {mu'o mi'e ________ } I more commonly see. I'm wonde= ring whether my friend has has an insight missed by the majority of the mos= t=A0vocal lojbanists, or if there is some reason for the common form that I= have not yet considered.

.i mi'e la .jdakrat.skaryzgik. mu'o
=

Firstly, are you the same skaryzgik that hasn't been on= here in a very, very long time?

Secondly, mu'o is much like the= English "Sincerely,". Anything that comes after it is not to be = taken as pertaining to the conversation.

Jon Jones,
Sincerely

--=
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be d= enpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I = am your father. :D )


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