From lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhCB5s_tBBoEQd33YQ@googlegroups.com Sun Apr 24 02:53:21 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QDw0C-0007tD-Of; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 02:53:21 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf2489614fxm.16 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 02:53:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=lRWswNJe7rp+c1BiqMKBbWREXs2VOZYaraZlYiTgs2g=; b=gkwJCjEKQoz7h8qx6m6a49gLYX5uKWwHA1Unjv37AXg9u6Fl8KEZd5SpPKBccrf5vp 7zjgOoALC/LhJhSTqIP2IBtKgeq4vHWMRbbKu2jLSlt9+Dbme6iCZhTM0g8PPYiYXHIW iidmC8W1bp19nBRNsyQ41Zx6sw0F2B0VKU1Hg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=4bzMkqbu2KS6fMvkHwm8e8u6I8BbsTRO3JEXIszq8oQBe6m/cYsyv2kANBtlzjbIPq cBnH8Lm3eQk+2dZ5Lr1KEA8VBrVcf5P3VvMDWZhkHjL7QPuwXMWFAFvxsb2MBzXF38pw s5iwySJCPd5QeAixu9+Lo87GhW+ftmzNz23GI= Received: by 10.223.59.215 with SMTP id m23mr730281fah.34.1303638785551; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 02:53:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.119.12 with SMTP id x12ls27663faq.2.gmail; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 02:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.97.154 with SMTP id l26mr118282fan.27.1303638784572; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 02:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.97.154 with SMTP id l26mr118281fan.27.1303638784545; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 02:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f45.google.com (mail-bw0-f45.google.com [209.85.214.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j3si507516fax.9.2011.04.24.02.53.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 24 Apr 2011 02:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.45; Received: by mail-bw0-f45.google.com with SMTP id 16so1320993bwz.4 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 02:53:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.80.29 with SMTP id r29mr2334132bkk.195.1303638783307; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 02:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.191.80 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 02:53:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201104232253.19981.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 03:53:03 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] letter(as in note)/email endings? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d6452c98330004a1a70e6c --0016e6d6452c98330004a1a70e6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 2:58 AM, tijlan wrote: > On 24 April 2011 03:53, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > In "mu'o mi'e pier" the object of "mu'o" is an implicit "zo'e", so I'm > > yielding the floor to anyone. > > In "mi'e pier. mu'o" the object of "mu'o" is > > any sumti, selbri, or bare name that comes after it; if there is none, > it's > > implicit "zo'e". > > Does an implicit "zo'e" really mean "anyone"? > > A: do mo > B: gleki > > What word is implicit in the x1 of the second bridi, and what does it refer > to? > > > mu'o There is no implicit x1. The x1 /is/ mi, because gleki is answering the question {do mo}. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --0016e6d6452c98330004a1a70e6c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 2:58 AM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:
On 24 April 2011 03:53, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> In "mu'o mi'e pier" the object of "mu'o&quo= t; is an implicit "zo'e", so I'm
> yielding the floor to anyone.
> In "mi'e pier. mu'o" the object of "mu'o&qu= ot; is
> any sumti, selbri, or bare name that comes after it; if there is none,= it's
> implicit "zo'e".

Does an implicit "zo'e" really mean "anyone"?=

A: do mo
B: gleki

What word is implicit in the x1 of the second bridi, and what does it refer= to?


mu'o

There is no implicit x1. The x1 /is/ mi, bec= ause gleki is answering the question {do mo}.

--
m= u'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa b= u .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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