From lojban-beginners+bncCJbznvHdFRCSqOXtBBoEU8wxvA@googlegroups.com Thu Apr 28 04:48:49 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QFPi8-0001pU-Vs; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 04:48:48 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf3039155fxm.16 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 04:48:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=lojc/3U2uikGfZXM8/4ZIuxYe12152dc6SnKDHYuB7I=; b=QJPAdTbyN3Dv3U6jeeV/LIkmEXku3EhLxPzua8R6jCzIjc7DD/6g8i2GH1G16lMWZX CQXwHdgZqzYCh/YaUls+0mFz6Ja+NA1kIjr88yjPYBi7NJdJsb89TsZcHa65I6OdT95m bt3fKnBhAYH5Yr45A5uDF3LuNDIKoz/5D7rbo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=UJ5SFq7kJKTqXGhhtLqeE6w8AJTn1OC9Ukv5W+2+RYAwRnTQP4cSHMPlbXKng7pUUU awm+P/2rjl9gy4BUyX4tuNY2SpA/GhZCsaRZvE0FhpAYpzBz1RQf92hFJHGBoi+VcaE8 VIhsEMDlhzJ4XDFs34QUJ3ZxrB2c3j9ag9BOI= Received: by 10.223.17.152 with SMTP id s24mr487375faa.17.1303991314336; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 04:48:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.51.195 with SMTP id e3ls451005fag.1.gmail; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 04:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.24.208 with SMTP id w16mr288081fab.11.1303991313059; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 04:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.24.208 with SMTP id w16mr288080fab.11.1303991313026; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 04:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c13si181869fak.2.2011.04.28.04.48.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 28 Apr 2011 04:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.44; Received: by mail-fx0-f44.google.com with SMTP id 15so1790553fxm.3 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 04:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.3.132 with SMTP id 4mr3741295fan.132.1303991131133; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 04:45:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.93.201 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 04:45:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <7e5bdd6d-4bb8-415e-b50f-6a0d3e5454b4@e8g2000vbz.googlegroups.com> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:45:11 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Why is CAhA a tense/modal? To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a80b29592904a1f9183b --20cf3054a80b29592904a1f9183b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:28 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > >> It's easier to keep I and YOU than forever distinguish between I as >> speaker and YOU as listener. >> > > Except that I /is/ /always/ the person speaking, and you /is/ /always/ the > person listening. > > But the person speaking isn't always I (he is to himself, but that's why we need I), nor is the person listening always YOU. stevo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --20cf3054a80b29592904a1f9183b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Jonathan Jones = <eyeonus@gmail.co= m> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:28 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw= @gmail.com> wrote:
It's easier to keep I and YOU than forever distinguish between I a= s speaker and YOU as listener.
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Except that I /is/ /always/ the person speaking, and you /is/ /= always/ the person listening.

But the person speaking isn't always I (he is to himself, but that= 's why we need I), nor is the person listening always YOU.
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stevo

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