From lojban-beginners+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDBruXtBBoEz6IVuQ@googlegroups.com Thu Apr 28 05:02:26 2011 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QFPvI-0002Dy-0y; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 05:02:25 -0700 Received: by qwh5 with SMTP id 5sf6840906qwh.16 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 05:02:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=8+40E66RDSZA0El0rfmDJjvfYzuxbInCWhohnSCecm4=; b=xFe9lPp9AeOpKjQ5NGaajDd0qcUTGJDqgS2nGrbj5LITtDlYyofzmyxvsGORVY4FMg xIgXuqxWcZ1lpEw0JcKfiUfxEatxKo7T5At+zeXqMsqYj7UlRpb7C050BXIKEkXYHDOG fD3ZaSzm32MBd2IF9FimGsdgeELJodyi953FA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=o7Q36g9CsXMChma3tnQgUw4zIYhWUF1nwHOKB+V4lvb/lwQgEjcuO2sroKCCISALzG hRSGOqw0xvUVKcTFaqwMdHygo7N1jNh07VsGFgB3jQwZfKB8IVB/NsC9aXb1X4DQoIOO DjT/dSNBw4wCn/nxaO8FUzSQU4vqC6NreqZW4= Received: by 10.229.105.227 with SMTP id u35mr442699qco.31.1303992129658; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 05:02:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.220.212 with SMTP id hz20ls586918qcb.3.gmail; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 05:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.141.71 with SMTP id l7mr267831qcu.7.1303992128925; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 05:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.141.71 with SMTP id l7mr267830qcu.7.1303992128906; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 05:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f52.google.com (mail-vw0-f52.google.com [209.85.212.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o12si409559qcu.2.2011.04.28.05.02.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 28 Apr 2011 05:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.52; Received: by vws16 with SMTP id 16so2185384vws.25 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 05:02:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.97.229 with SMTP id ed5mr4761716vdb.237.1303992128509; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 05:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.182.67 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 05:02:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <7e5bdd6d-4bb8-415e-b50f-6a0d3e5454b4@e8g2000vbz.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 09:02:08 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Why is CAhA a tense/modal? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:45 AM, MorphemeAddict wrote: >> > But the person speaking isn't always I (he is to himself, but that's why we > need I), nor is the person listening always YOU. "mi" is "lo cusku be dei" and "do" is "lo te cusku be dei". "dei" is "lo nau se cusku", so I would pick "nau" as the primitive for deictics. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.