From lojban-beginners+bncCNzDnoiEDxDNgJ_tBBoEW92iSw@googlegroups.com Thu Apr 14 20:49:51 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QAa2V-0004yU-27; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:49:51 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf1943785fxm.16 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:49:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=Vz4HRjr09+h/IHP/moPQ/MN46ErQHOsXeE33ezETxpY=; b=Zyvobp5eX0oBm4YlGfsNi6VbtcfvnlnNv//fwaWGnUyYN3Z3PtF2h/b0VBUUNOeAx3 G/aJpbhTtWePUiiIoArTclBWF9VzfwiJAlJNbBn0gKTfLKL3hqdoDjwkgsYTrLmY0xJ6 ocA+BdwQxo5fOsJJZBQ1OxkhihHUTfy3R6PIA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=GIR6k3QwQULeFbjBp56w7FnzMvd1T+6BP3UxpVvpyOHH1kZSZPlLUumlJhqyWjTuQZ YRddIUcdgeJkMXqesit/KeVVARslU046dUSWFEvv5H0qpQkMiXIItzhoxTrz7JJhnXvM B/4JUTZw8yNfBYR7yah5ES4cALTntVPOJUNkU= Received: by 10.223.121.83 with SMTP id g19mr286676far.48.1302839373804; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:49:33 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.25.14 with SMTP id x14ls23878fab.3.gmail; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.87.8 with SMTP id u8mr153315fal.10.1302839372626; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.87.8 with SMTP id u8mr153314fal.10.1302839372596; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f51.google.com (mail-fx0-f51.google.com [209.85.161.51]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z10si223856fam.5.2011.04.14.20.49.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of pretoriusjf@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.51; Received: by mail-fx0-f51.google.com with SMTP id 5so1912917fxm.38 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:49:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.144.136 with SMTP id z8mr513656fau.31.1302839372408; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.32.77 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:49:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 23:49:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Talking to a computer. From: Johan Pretorius To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: pretoriusjf@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of pretoriusjf@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=pretoriusjf@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023545bde24fde98804a0eced4b --0023545bde24fde98804a0eced4b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 doi skami ko jmina li re li re? *starts to pull apart the sentence you gave* Oh wait, now I get it... hmmm. I know this is skips over the scope of what you're asking, but if I told the computer to "add 2+2 twelve times", I would expect it to know that I want feedback on the results of doing that. I wouldn't expect to have to tell it explicitly that I want the results on the screen - maybe there would be a setting in my program where I can indicate my preference to have responses printed on the screen (as opposed to having them spoken, or whatever). I think this is called thread-jacking though, so I'm going to shut up and go to bed now :-) Regards, Johan On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > I was hoping maybe someone had an idea for a shorter way to say that.... > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > >> Sounds like you're 1/200th of the way there to a lojbanic scripting >> language =p >> >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> >>> Let's pretend for the moment that it is possible to talk to a computer in >>> Lojban and be understood by it as a jbopre would understand. >>> >>> Let us further pretend that we want to test this computer's >>> responsiveness. Say, add "2+2" 12 times and print the results on the >>> monitor. >>> >>> I came up wuth: {doi skami ko rapygau lonu makau sumji li re li re kei li >>> gai gi'e ciska lo jalge be la'edi'u lo vi vidni}. >>> >>> Comments/suggestions? >>> >>> -- >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>> >>> .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu >>> do zo'o >>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu > do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- Johan Pretorius Cell: 0829268327 pretoriusjf@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --0023545bde24fde98804a0eced4b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable doi skami ko jmina li re li re?

*starts to pull apart the sentence y= ou gave*

Oh wait, now I get it...=A0 hmmm.

I know this is ski= ps over the scope of what you're asking, but if I told the computer to = "add 2+2 twelve times", I would expect it to know that I want fee= dback on the results of doing that.=A0 I wouldn't expect to have to tel= l it explicitly that I want the results on the screen - maybe there would b= e a setting in my program where I can indicate my preference to have respon= ses printed on the screen (as opposed to having them spoken, or whatever).= =A0 I think this is called thread-jacking though, so I'm going to shut = up and go to bed now :-)

Regards,
Johan


On Thu, Apr 14,= 2011 at 10:54 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
I was hoping maybe someone had an idea for a shorter way to say that....


On Thu, A= pr 14, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
Sounds like you're 1/200th of the way th= ere to a lojbanic scripting language =3Dp

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus= @gmail.com> wrote:
Let's p= retend for the moment that it is possible to talk to a computer in Lojban a= nd be understood by it as a jbopre would understand.

Let us further pretend that we want to test this computer's respons= iveness. Say, add "2+2" 12 times and print the results on the mon= itor.

I came up wuth: {doi skami ko rapygau lonu makau sumji li re li re kei = li gai gi'e ciska lo jalge be la'edi'u lo vi vidni}.

Com= ments/suggestions?

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.
.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk= . mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D= )

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.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i = doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
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