From lojban-beginners+bncCML0xpmUARDKuLvtBBoEWsF3lQ@googlegroups.com Wed Apr 20 06:15:11 2011 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QCXFG-0003lc-0s; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:15:10 -0700 Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13sf1033333wwb.16 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:14:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=1IIVHcSKw351wtnr+hFp2CG73ph8lgVrGNWzStCnnB8=; b=CRaww+xSOVAUSrcdS9IxNWQVRYr7tQh+8K502XQ2atNdGcfSWQz33KZLGeamtOv/AD Yz38U4+yNVdrc27650wT0ecc6+JnTVHxMs/xubBbR5PI9zQrp9pvWValXWAatZPs6krf SGhW+uXhOfObvV7GehZi2CS/q+bI2ttap1vtk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=kJlz60ka9tw/rOkg5D1sotVgD+Kq93Gu2yKQdGGEHjn+UEyfPClDdGB9r+cGcIaAXU iyj3bULO4RNPX5p15hxphoDKB00kyMWG5zdhYrdXOOnWyBwxZKZvra6IB3zwDxoqYcOD V0qxsFCqS6jPAbmkrbGRhQvNIYBtvMqLzDYPw= Received: by 10.216.23.78 with SMTP id u56mr176071weu.15.1303305290691; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:14:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.255.203 with SMTP id j53ls750426wes.1.gmail; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.82.206 with SMTP id o56mr546665wee.13.1303305289647; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.82.206 with SMTP id o56mr546664wee.13.1303305289608; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h6si126820wes.3.2011.04.20.06.14.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.50; Received: by mail-ww0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 33so802658wwc.31 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:14:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.217.7.67 with SMTP id z45mr5801961wes.73.1303305289275; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.13.211 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:14:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55e97578-888a-4f10-9bb2-c482ed625361@s3g2000vbf.googlegroups.com> References: <55e97578-888a-4f10-9bb2-c482ed625361@s3g2000vbf.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:14:49 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] "th" sounds in Lojban From: Ian Johnson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30266ffccd19c404a15968e2 --20cf30266ffccd19c404a15968e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 They're not morphologically permitted, because so few languages have them. If you want to make them, you're going to have to do it inside ZOI. mu'o mi'e .latros. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Greendogo wrote: > Hey, I was wondering how someone would write the "th" sounds of "then" > and "thin" (respectively) in Lojbanic orthography without substituting > the ' (h sound). > > I wish someone had taken into account that "th" sounds are very > beautiful. > > Personally, my orthography would have used "x" for the "th" sound in > "thin" and "dx" for the "th" sound in "then". I would have then used > "h" for the guttural sound that "x" is now used for. > > I don't know why, but the two "th" sounds are probably my favorite > sounds that the human mouth can produce. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --20cf30266ffccd19c404a15968e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable They're not morphologically permitted, because so few languages have th= em. If you want to make them, you're going to have to do it inside ZOI.=

mu'o mi'e .latros.

On Wed= , Apr 20, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Greendogo <pcm1123@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey, I was wondering how someone would writ= e the "th" sounds of "then"
and "thin" (respectively) in Lojbanic orthography without substit= uting
the ' (h sound).

I wish someone had taken into account that "th" sounds are very beautiful.

Personally, my orthography would have used "x" for the "th&q= uot; sound in
"thin" and "dx" for the "th" sound in "t= hen". =A0I would have then used
"h" for the guttural sound that "x" is now used for.
I don't know why, but the two "th" sounds are probably my fav= orite
sounds that the human mouth can produce.

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