From lojban-beginners+bncCML0xpmUARDquLvtBBoESjgXhw@googlegroups.com Wed Apr 20 06:15:33 2011 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QCXFf-0003lc-RA; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:15:32 -0700 Received: by mail-ww0-f61.google.com with SMTP id 13sf1033333wwb.16 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:15:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=JEiQZM+QGbVWsh4Ejv07MQ03Oa85YvC6VThxwf5ECyk=; b=XrNXqRzLjOHGBDNRGzmwozqIXqSjT5S75jvcTDUjokLupgxrvQmv7x06hCXar/YgDk yRAvbT0zQ6B1u7QpEQcaKd8YJxyF9CQmLocv7dStEQonnu750zJtuzMtk0FvQL7oNxUi vOumv9EKtR8xrdzx16lygO/UfFAfh1271RC+s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=W/ZcKbmRaWRR1+6mvtKtUuDYsIhhVdzmpW92y5j4dbtZ4P3BTqZO/AAeyA8/7bEOfV DMRNJMxQ/9VQdtgl0wTyEvYE7XS6ZO9fHxqADa7A1gv3GX4mc+PthURK+Th7ScVCSWg/ Zdd36D8qmtCrOTQCxpgmCFeFYnpom72w1SXOY= Received: by 10.216.58.144 with SMTP id q16mr2126131wec.26.1303305322265; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:15:22 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.121.138 with SMTP id r10ls744380weh.3.gmail; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.82.206 with SMTP id o56mr546712wee.13.1303305321319; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.82.206 with SMTP id o56mr546711wee.13.1303305321247; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f169.google.com (mail-wy0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g5si126739wej.4.2011.04.20.06.15.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.169; Received: by mail-wy0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 19so790284wyf.14 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:15:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.24.73 with SMTP id w51mr7227298wew.72.1303305321045; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.13.211 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:15:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <55e97578-888a-4f10-9bb2-c482ed625361@s3g2000vbf.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:15:20 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] "th" sounds in Lojban From: Ian Johnson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f1a194b1e04004a1596a13 --001485f1a194b1e04004a1596a13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 (I may have misunderstood your question, though.) On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Ian Johnson wrote: > They're not morphologically permitted, because so few languages have them. > If you want to make them, you're going to have to do it inside ZOI. > > mu'o mi'e .latros. > > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Greendogo wrote: > >> Hey, I was wondering how someone would write the "th" sounds of "then" >> and "thin" (respectively) in Lojbanic orthography without substituting >> the ' (h sound). >> >> I wish someone had taken into account that "th" sounds are very >> beautiful. >> >> Personally, my orthography would have used "x" for the "th" sound in >> "thin" and "dx" for the "th" sound in "then". I would have then used >> "h" for the guttural sound that "x" is now used for. >> >> I don't know why, but the two "th" sounds are probably my favorite >> sounds that the human mouth can produce. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Ian Johnson <= ;blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
They're not morphologically permitted, = because so few languages have them. If you want to make them, you're go= ing to have to do it inside ZOI.

mu'o mi'e .latros.


On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Greendogo <pcm112= 3@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey, I was wondering how someone would write= the "th" sounds of "then"
and "thin" (respectively) in Lojbanic orthography without substit= uting
the ' (h sound).

I wish someone had taken into account that "th" sounds are very beautiful.

Personally, my orthography would have used "x" for the "th&q= uot; sound in
"thin" and "dx" for the "th" sound in "t= hen". =A0I would have then used
"h" for the guttural sound that "x" is now used for.
I don't know why, but the two "th" sounds are probably my fav= orite
sounds that the human mouth can produce.

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