From lojban-beginners+bncCIycn8S8DhDpqZPvBBoEJ7DSoQ@googlegroups.com Tue May 31 04:46:03 2011 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QRNOU-0003cK-Ea; Tue, 31 May 2011 04:46:02 -0700 Received: by qwh5 with SMTP id 5sf7946359qwh.16 for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 04:45:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uySm6H4ETBfnQMslAUoygn+sbMDkcKrigplhh+yrcBg=; b=e1Or8kdZxYX92roVLs1D6g+F3SV47uPnywz264m9tTefVd8+OWLeRhJ2OVmwPTYU2Y bXUl7zVeyTHRZDM2BHAJeG7x/H+ZaMVQbn6GILrtYMkKE1fOhy6z39UCiCnnc+YKhJCB W1yK6af+MWyhAZlDsJ31C88jvjfro6drlOBmo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=fKT6LhfvBpMAo7CEBuD0+3fc6q8bCE5FWlOSe2VGYQqsZUSkcg4IrIvvmpnpYOsiY5 y7V5GHV2QJyjTrXpAEuPDtVskc0J+r8Nosezh5Dif63ieUceP4OPv6sEAeZXo8oEKQIF Nwvm+sEFcc0vBAB29MC8Onr8WBO47Xo9GgWDc= Received: by 10.224.199.9 with SMTP id eq9mr1640313qab.50.1306842345578; Tue, 31 May 2011 04:45:45 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.138.148 with SMTP id a20ls1096084qau.5.gmail; Tue, 31 May 2011 04:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.182.9 with SMTP id ca9mr1914477qab.23.1306842345152; Tue, 31 May 2011 04:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.182.9 with SMTP id ca9mr1914476qab.23.1306842345143; Tue, 31 May 2011 04:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f172.google.com (mail-qy0-f172.google.com [209.85.216.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fx39si4655730qcb.2.2011.05.31.04.45.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 31 May 2011 04:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.172; Received: by mail-qy0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 29so1366702qyk.17 for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 04:45:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.200.73 with SMTP id ev9mr293615qab.7.1306842343949; Tue, 31 May 2011 04:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.34.83 with HTTP; Tue, 31 May 2011 04:45:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 07:45:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Just to double check, about {da} and quantifiers From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2011/5/30 Jorge Llamb=EDas : > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 7:48 PM, .arpis. wr= ote: >> >> Specifically, in the restricted case, >> (assuming there are no cat-dogs in the universe) what does {ro da poi ke= 'a >> gerku je mlatu cu broda} mean? > > It means: > > =A0 ro da zo'u ganai da gerku je mlatu gi da broda > > it means that whether there are cat-dogs or not. > >> Is it false, true, meaningless? > > If there are no cat-dogs, it's true, since for every value of da it > will be false that da gerku je mlatu. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes Which is precisely why I say that every "lo no broda cu brode" construction is also true. But no one seems to believe me :,-( --gejyspa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscrib= e@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.