From lojban-beginners+bncCNTPpI2KGxDC55LuBBoEi43iXA@googlegroups.com Fri May 06 19:52:03 2011 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QIXca-0006UX-SU; Fri, 06 May 2011 19:52:03 -0700 Received: by qwh5 with SMTP id 5sf10863002qwh.16 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 19:51:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis :x-cloudmark-score:x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=1uyhQWGDpeITJriN7OUUPYCJ8QdDRSvCA4JeJXOPuaQ=; b=mHsQZE5kB50bO9n4k782VZCfdA4h5B2/eesPtkzhELilbb6pZw60pQawMeRcZLlN5d zLrnuY6CQbFO24/dm9tpHXvbb5uSjPYlncEa0NplUDhNzL1+AVF1Y7HFwpnaTGByhEZk SCIXWiTWmPkUSIsn50fQvJ25yuxPGijDB/tkg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=6kc8sKCC//78Rxoko+8LmeWRX0o5lkGhUmitJEKyJXzU3fFgKvOaCpmKDGdBQOtXoQ /x2mY1ZUAgqudSdqZ6Jb81m13KUZ6Kgr9ljcfFmAldAPwEErb/gPyzyXA1I9qUGU5ceV 78PI11MhULiwvX5wqHnbDJRNgG36lXq3slEbc= Received: by 10.229.42.212 with SMTP id t20mr406111qce.46.1304736706785; Fri, 06 May 2011 19:51:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.208.8 with SMTP id ga8ls436374qcb.2.gmail; Fri, 06 May 2011 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.29.77 with SMTP id p13mr313298qcc.23.1304736705894; Fri, 06 May 2011 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.29.77 with SMTP id p13mr313297qcc.23.1304736705870; Fri, 06 May 2011 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w19si828817qco.11.2011.05.06.19.51.44; Fri, 06 May 2011 19:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=zBQrDHOGJVa+32FYvZQb0EuBWG+8UjOxCya+IIWDaxY= c=1 sm=0 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=_-GDJ1jFZrYA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=BB62hG_vIeM2gCc-IlsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:53529] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id B1/B6-29443-0C3B4CD4; Sat, 07 May 2011 02:51:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A0FB113 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 22:51:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: ci lo gerku vs lo ci gerku Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 22:51:15 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <025af042-f0be-48ff-b7de-79434433d587@l2g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201105062251.18981.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 06 May 2011 18:12:05 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > "lo no gerku" is self-contradictory, it's nonsense. You are making a > reference to something and at the same time saying that the number of > referents is zero. It can only work in a metaphorical sense. "lo no > gerku cu blabi" does not mean "no gerku cu blabi". What about "ro lo no prane ke xirdegmei namcu cu gumpilji lo su'o so ficysi= 'u=20 namcu"? ("xirdegmei" is opposed to "landegmei".) It has been proved that th= ey=20 must have at least nine different factors, that they are not divisible by= =20 105, etc.; but no one has found a single one, and some mathematicians suspe= ct =20 they don't exist. Pierre --=20 .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. 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