From lojban-beginners+bncCML0xpmUARD5k-XvBBoEJ8yuuw@googlegroups.com Wed Jun 15 17:10:47 2011 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QX0AV-0003P1-B6; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:10:47 -0700 Received: by pzk4 with SMTP id 4sf656666pzk.16 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:10:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=inqh9ZUP+psOh+Cgran/tmd0C2xwxLSIpb7jrEJAgkI=; b=xOJDL+gzRgcWqEEQ2Dn/IzAoKKcLQo0UK5Oo1VXysbfssz0ZHiPbvKbqJDEx3j/3kB zJue02UBTjmDBSnME7c5A4lWJU5uva6VHzlJlMGbhHYg7XDeyy2zbhD77xRGbq/RfACI rg1DUWLza4e/wxqvVS5Pvwt5mxSNCchdCJjRM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=X/p8JOSXFac8PCf9rdOMJCnhd1V3Zm4esTWKzfz6wErlxeKq0oodA6R39cVp1ikCLT DDBJN8toCyAZFr2eglKjAlINT6zZek1ASolN94+7tEUwXKp1qSv6Xx/PQQW9di5AE1i3 eV4kZy/9f4V2fMDK9yCuPkaQ5r+Jwk11MxTuQ= Received: by 10.68.36.161 with SMTP id r1mr56785pbj.19.1308183033616; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:10:33 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.36.67 with SMTP id o3ls361502pbj.0.gmail; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.44.41 with SMTP id b9mr50044pbm.9.1308183032721; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.44.41 with SMTP id b9mr50043pbm.9.1308183032706; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pz0-f45.google.com (mail-pz0-f45.google.com [209.85.210.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c10si2215554pbn.1.2011.06.15.17.10.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.45; Received: by pzk30 with SMTP id 30so935979pzk.18 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:10:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.58.226 with SMTP id u2mr176775pbq.459.1308183032577; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.55.104 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:10:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:10:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] More lojban kid stories. From: Ian Johnson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec544ee30f53e8504a5c91839 --bcaec544ee30f53e8504a5c91839 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds sorta like {na ka'e go'i}, but more general. mu'o mi'e latros 2011/6/15 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Luke Bergen > wrote: > > Uhhhh. Yeah I figured I just didn't understand it.... could you explain > it > > to me the same way that you explained it to your kid? Then a couple > > examples? > > This may help: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presupposition > > "na'i" is used to negate the presuppositions of an utterance, rather > than the utterance itself. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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mu'o= mi'e latros

2011/6/15 Jorge Llamb=ED= as <jjllambias= @gmail.com>
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7= :51 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeaberge= n@gmail.com> wrote:
> Uhhhh. Yeah I figured I just didn't understand it.... could you ex= plain it
> to me the same way that you explained it to your kid?=A0 Then a couple=
> examples?

This may help:

h= ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presupposition

"na'i" is used to negate the presuppositions of an utterance,= rather
than the utterance itself.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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