From lojban-beginners+bncCJbznvHdFRDHt8HxBBoEIhCtjw@googlegroups.com Wed Jul 27 11:43:23 2011 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qm92n-0001hw-F1; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:43:22 -0700 Received: by wwf27 with SMTP id 27sf3831226wwf.16 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:41:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=qbcqBMCI5TQ7R1LRBQ92zMRzaP/cePvoP71YaoLRh48=; b=gSLajja544fxQFlhiLc99yLT0Ft27ofXvQu9JY0uXT37uXcegtq84bUaX8ivej/fSL tP5GmLZPTA1B41NektDLIxpO02bpRDB0+8R5W92Nr2qTg1gUnjVJ0BZgUEBpQa6lvlvI du34mb5R6tF/ZpL/k8caitlwJ4DotlcESQDB4= Received: by 10.216.229.196 with SMTP id h46mr111351weq.16.1311792071603; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:41:11 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.26.37 with SMTP id b37ls244183eea.5.gmail; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.95.70 with SMTP id o46mr11343eef.52.1311792070452; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.95.70 with SMTP id o46mr11341eef.52.1311792070427; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ew0-f52.google.com (mail-ew0-f52.google.com [209.85.215.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p1si234046eeh.1.2011.07.27.11.41.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.52; Received: by ewy28 with SMTP id 28so1501903ewy.25 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.144.140 with SMTP id z12mr34424fau.147.1311792070198; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:41:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.78.198 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:40:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: MorphemeAddict Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:40:50 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Coining a lujvo: "evidence" To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023545bddec5d071804a9116494 --0023545bddec5d071804a9116494 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > > What the mabla does {stidi} have to do with anything? Seems malgli. > > > > mu'o mi'e la stela selckiku > > I think suggestion is a very important concept to the definition of > "evidence". A fact F is evidence for hypothesis H if it suggests that H is > true. > > hypothesis: "all human beings enjoy cheese" > The fact that "I like cheese" suggests that the hypothesis is true (albeit > it is a weak suggestion) > The fact that "my entire family likes cheese" suggests that the hypothesis > is true (better) > The fact that "my grandpa does not like cheese" does NOT suggest that the > hypothesis is true therefore it is *counter*-evidence Wouldn't counter-evidence be evidence that suggests that the hypothesis is not true, rather than merely not suggesting that the hypothesis is true? Counter-evidence is evidence that the opposite is true. stevo > > Evidence compounds upon itself to make the suggestion stronger and stronger > that the hypothesis is true. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --0023545bddec5d071804a9116494 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gma= il.com> wrote:
> What the mabla does {stidi} have to do with anything= ? =A0Seems malgli.
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> mu'o mi'e la stela selckiku
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I think suggestion is a very important concept to the definition o= f "evidence". =A0A fact F is evidence for hypothesis H if it sugg= ests that H is true.

hypothesis: "all human beings enjoy cheese"
The fact that = "I like cheese" suggests that the hypothesis is true (albeit it i= s a weak suggestion)
The fact that "my entire family likes cheese&q= uot; suggests that the hypothesis is true (better)
The fact that "my grandpa does not like cheese" does NOT suggest = that the hypothesis is true therefore it is counter-evidence
=A0
Wouldn't counter-evidence be evidence that suggests that the hypot= hesis is not true, rather than merely not suggesting that the hypothesis is= true? Counter-evidence is evidence that the opposite is true.
=A0
stevo

Evidence compounds upon itself to make the suggestion stronger and str= onger that the hypothesis is true.

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