From lojban-beginners+bncCIici4jiChCQyd7wBBoEKEdNbA@googlegroups.com Fri Jul 08 17:45:17 2011 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QfLfW-0000OE-ET; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:45:17 -0700 Received: by wyh13 with SMTP id 13sf3802143wyh.16 for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:45:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=AYZh0M8K39c6x1PxA3NcCHa50AG0RQFbSz8jpnhoCqc=; b=LlUV9tbihJDbDydRD1nd3GKasfhZ3OpQ+UYdSezVDY0SEAtY50cq6i1dR5RKUxRoc/ XbVF0wqhj0jYK+64kCJ0PyO/O5g4aBoP69hJ8qKppGMTh/4etcpMpNHaDh5ptHpFDD2q H0Ns5JPsxGA0Yexf04N4LtUXw0CoL1YWlhiys= Received: by 10.216.241.204 with SMTP id g54mr964633wer.22.1310172304429; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:45:04 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.168.207 with SMTP id v15ls1243307wby.3.gmail; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.53.196 with SMTP id n4mr117789wbg.11.1310172303528; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.53.196 with SMTP id n4mr117788wbg.11.1310172303476; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f170.google.com (mail-wy0-f170.google.com [74.125.82.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c25si2883001wbp.1.2011.07.08.17.45.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of 00ai99@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.170; Received: by wyf22 with SMTP id 22so3352148wyf.1 for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:45:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.79.5 with SMTP id h5mr2178169wee.110.1310172303258; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.201.163 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 10:15:03 +0930 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] 'at this time in the past' From: "David Gowers (kampu)" <00ai99@gmail.com> To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: 00ai99@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of 00ai99@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=00ai99@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0d80cbaf5a104a798429b --000e0ce0d80cbaf5a104a798429b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello all, I've continued to learn Lojban although I've been away from the IRC and mailing-lists. I recently updated jbofacki to be a lot more useful, so if any of you use it, check it out. To the main subject of this email: How do we transpose time tenses? The example is, I was watching this Let's Play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOJ3A0xdh5A and I uttered this rather time-complex statement: "at this time last time, Snake was about to be killed". {ca le pu cabna ku catra la since}? The problem being 'le pu cabna' is underspecified (and sounds like a tautology vs 'le purci'). I want to say 'the time in the past iteration that corresponds to the present moment in this iteration'. -- mi'e kampu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --000e0ce0d80cbaf5a104a798429b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I've continued to learn Lojban although I've been away f= rom the IRC and mailing-lists. I recently updated jbofacki to be a lot more= useful, so if any of you use it, check it out.

To the main subject = of this email: How do we transpose time tenses?

The example is, I was watching this Let's Play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxOJ3= A0xdh5A
and I uttered this rather time-complex statement: "at t= his time last time, Snake was about to be killed".

{ca le pu cabna ku catra la since}?
The problem being 'le pu cab= na' is underspecified (and sounds like a tautology vs 'le purci'= ;). I want to say 'the time in the past iteration that corresponds to t= he present moment in this iteration'.

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