From lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhCA8efyBBoE20BiQQ@googlegroups.com Sun Aug 28 01:13:04 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QxaUG-0007Dj-4s; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 01:13:04 -0700 Received: by fxd2 with SMTP id 2sf5832098fxd.16 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 01:12:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=F5OyMnqEFNpYR07VGYgJYDpK6C1q7M2Haau48nfmrAM=; b=Mgzu0PVgpw+hIpEZoqG0N8ZfyDZjAR5m+spekeoR4qeEUGxSM5x+J9Fx0us9tUk81m 2obdXOXxi86kykDiX84RG6pvWCPgEQ5cU8J7lXte/2t7qGtYC8rzyE0rOffb+vO772uo LPrxRiwXU6hPPNxC2yg9TDBqRd53/8qgDZjmI= Received: by 10.223.25.212 with SMTP id a20mr521372fac.23.1314519168671; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 01:12:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.39.211 with SMTP id h19ls2570544bke.2.gmail; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 01:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.131.208 with SMTP id y16mr538566bks.11.1314519167302; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 01:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.131.208 with SMTP id y16mr538565bks.11.1314519167274; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 01:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f46.google.com (mail-fx0-f46.google.com [209.85.161.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t20si1612757fab.2.2011.08.28.01.12.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 28 Aug 2011 01:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.46; Received: by mail-fx0-f46.google.com with SMTP id 19so5261747fxh.33 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 01:12:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.59.73 with SMTP id k9mr4747721fah.138.1314518887182; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 01:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.41.68 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 01:08:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <41f3563c-23b4-4c7b-96fc-8b5fcd11033a@z1g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 02:08:07 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban "r" From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517477fc652336904ab8c471f --001517477fc652336904ab8c471f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > If your way of pronouncing things is the "official" way then please add the > "er"/"r" lack of distinction here: > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Breakdowns+of+audiovisual+isomorphism I don't believe there is a lack. Syllabic "r" is pronounced this way: http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~krussll/phonetics/transcription/english-symbols/syllabic-r.html, which though similar, is not the same as {er}. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --001517477fc652336904ab8c471f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gm= ail.com> wrote:
If your way of pronouncing things is the "official" way then plea= se add the "er"/"r" lack of distinction here:=A0http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Breakdowns+of+audiovisual+isomorphi= sm

I don't believe there is a lack. Syllabic "r" is pr= onounced this way: http://home.cc.umanitoba= .ca/~krussll/phonetics/transcription/english-symbols/syllabic-r.html, w= hich though similar, is not the same as {er}.

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