From lojban-beginners+bncCJLV_tPeERCOoOnyBBoEB_-Vcw@googlegroups.com Sun Aug 28 07:26:53 2011 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QxgJm-0001sx-8e; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:26:52 -0700 Received: by ywa6 with SMTP id 6sf8400617ywa.16 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:26:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YIpLraaYW3naNfoWwiMKVStwvgXX+4RPiDYHzWWhKT8=; b=RgZOE8kjmMxzIoKXvK0TlK7oYUl9ioS7EuCszpZh9OiiTZIHaiZb9okrvX5HyldWyo B/1LNi8fPdCEu2cnYmzaBD2vitjw5GkaY5oWiE0xmCVkiInbUWkAA2GNDRFXZt3JsCiu qVGIX3+3AE2wnD2OX0QKqw9W8ymuvuzQdmg5E= Received: by 10.101.138.13 with SMTP id q13mr580314ann.22.1314541582640; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:26:22 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.249.16 with SMTP id w16ls9464072anh.3.gmail; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.176.136 with SMTP id b8mr15387220yhm.7.1314541579948; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.109.2 with SMTP id h2msybc; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 15:34:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.60.4 with SMTP id i4mr533160aga.14.1314484496978; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 15:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by y9g2000prc.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 15:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 15:34:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <41f3563c-23b4-4c7b-96fc-8b5fcd11033a@z1g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <28ab3499-9d06-4d35-bfb2-fdabebc74f6d@b34g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <13569252-07f3-4097-852b-cc669b508527@z1g2000prf.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/6.0,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <8d97cf6c-d812-4ce4-8656-8e2ef7349fb4@y9g2000prc.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban "r" From: Viral Lamb To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: jms1992@comcast.net Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I say this is a problem for the language, because they say you can use any "r" sound that you like. Which leads to audio ambiguity because when using the letter "r" just before or after the letter "e", it turns into the "ei" sound. Every recording and pronunciation has sounded like this, so no this is not simply me being too stupid to talk correctly. I'm not having any "pronunciation troubles", I'm merely (just) finding out about this odd peculiarity with the letters "r" "l" and "e". On Aug 27, 9:11=A0am, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 4:29 AM, Viral Lamb wrote: > > This seems like a rather significant problem that needs to be > > addressed for the purposes of keeping such obvious ambiguity out of > > lojban. > > Dude, your problems with pronunciation is not a problem with the language= AT > ALL, let alone one that needs to be addressed. You pronunciation troubles= is > a problem that needs to be addressed by YOU. > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.