From lojban-beginners+bncCK7Yk5CUCxC1w-_yBBoEtUGaWQ@googlegroups.com Mon Aug 29 12:00:22 2011 Received: from mail-yi0-f61.google.com ([209.85.218.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qy74C-0004TI-2q; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:00:18 -0700 Received: by yie36 with SMTP id 36sf8189984yie.16 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:00:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=GvWHwtZMgaHMqElxdxhw4q5Z4D539XORvDmZVxWHuPk=; b=W4Sk2HjkhjD5yUIL6QA+YVfNNYbsne0xxXeo3rdMuhFVfnjT/OZgM82F9OR+VfZ3Vh /rpl+luy+vOS8h3/xLker1IxXl5mB8mCW9FHSi4Lgt1ynFRexHkKqReMwxu1PHie1kKj JziMLpN8w1djZDuM55GuA+wP3sL+i70YJT9Ho= Received: by 10.101.129.9 with SMTP id g9mr815462ann.11.1314644405260; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:00:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.197.39 with SMTP id z39ls1782366anp.2.gmail; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.53.35 with SMTP id b35mr4288047ana.36.1314644403740; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.53.35 with SMTP id b35mr4288046ana.36.1314644403717; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gy0-f171.google.com (mail-gy0-f171.google.com [209.85.160.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v10si8654092anq.2.2011.08.29.12.00.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.171; Received: by gye5 with SMTP id 5so6690203gye.16 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:00:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.134.72 with SMTP id ib8mr4864784icc.94.1314644403474; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.178.71 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:00:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110826170823.GB17646@alice.local> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:00:03 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Lojbanifying the Tranquility Calendar From: Remo Dentato To: "lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com" X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f3af8acd28004aba980fa --20cf307f3af8acd28004aba980fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'd be intrested in knowing more about this fictional characters and the effects of him speaking lojban! On Friday, August 26, 2011, DataPacRat wrote: > Year names: > * BT, Before Tranquility > * AT, After Tranquility The first thing is to decide how render "Tranquility" that is a specific instance of an English word (and not just the translation of {tolxanka}. Anyway, we're lucky that both start with 't' :) Let's create a fu'ivla for such important word: {trankuiliti} and let's hope someone will do better. So for the purpose of the years, we can consider events "before Tranquility" to have happened {pu lo trankuiliti} and abbreviate it as {pyty} and events "after Tranquility" to have happened {ba lo trankuiliti} and abbreviate it as {byty}. It's unfortunate that now "bt" means exactly the opposite it did earlier, but so is life. Now,since lerfu strings can be legally used as numbers, 12BT can be {li parepyty} (12 in past of Tranquility) and 31AT would be {li cipabyty} (31 in the future of Tranquility). > Individual days: "Landing" is another word that needs some work. Jonathan suggested {stagai} which is more like anchoring/parking. I see it different from the act of "landing" which (to me) is the end on land of a travel that did not occur on land. I could not think of anything better than {tumkla} = "x1=k1 comes/goes to destination x2=k2=t1 from origin x3=k3 via route x4=k4 using means/vehicle x 5=k5". I know, every lujvo made with {klama} seems trivial and abused, but I couldn't find of a better way to indicate a destination (after all, we don't even have a gismu for "arriving" which is simply the opposite of leaving!). I'm also convinced that weekdays names should be names and I like forming names with rafsi, so here are my proposals > * Moon Landing Day -> {tumkladj} > * Armstrong Day -> {armstrongydj} > * Aldrin Day -> {aldrinydj} > Days of the week: > * Venusday -> {venusydj} > * Saturnday -> {saturydj} > * Solday -> {solydj} > * Lunaday -> {lunadj} > * Marsday -> {marsydj} > * Mercuryday -> {mercurydj} > * Jupiterday -> {djupiterydj} > > Months: > * Archimedes -> > * Brahe > * Copernicus > * Darwin > * Einstein > * Faraday > * Galileo > * Hippocrates > * Imhotep > * Jung > * Kepler > * Lavoisier > * Mendel > > > Thank you for your time, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --20cf307f3af8acd28004aba980fa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd be intrested in =A0knowing more about this fictional characters and= the effects of him speaking lojban!

On Friday, August 26, 2011, Dat= aPacRat <datap= acrat@gmail.com> wrote:
> Year names:
> * BT, Before Tranquility
> * AT, After Tranq= uility

The first thing is to decide how render "Tranquility&quo= t; that is a specific instance of an English word (and not just the transla= tion of {tolxanka}. Anyway, we're lucky that both start with 't'= ; :)

Let's create a fu'ivla for such important word: {trankuiliti} a= nd let's hope someone will do better.

So for the purpose of the = years, we can consider events "before Tranquility" to have happen= ed {pu lo trankuiliti} and abbreviate it as {pyty} and events "after T= ranquility" to have happened {ba lo trankuiliti} and abbreviate it as = {byty}. It's unfortunate that now "bt" means exactly the oppo= site it did earlier, but so is life.
Now,since lerfu strings can be legally used as numbers, =A012BT can be {li = parepyty} =A0(12 in past of Tranquility) and 31AT would be {li cipabyty} (3= 1 in the future of Tranquility).


> Individual days:

&q= uot;Landing" is another word that needs some work. Jonathan suggested = {stagai} which is more like anchoring/parking. I see it different from the = act of "landing" which (to me) is the end on land of a travel tha= t did not occur on land.

I could not think of anything better than {tumkla} =3D "x1=3Dk1 comes/goes to destination x2=3Dk2= =3Dt1 from origin x3=3Dk3 via route x= 4=3Dk4 using means/vehicle x5=3Dk5&q= uot;.
I know, every lujvo made with {klama} seems trivial and abused, but I could= n't find of a better way to indicate a destination (after all, we don&#= 39;t even have a gismu for "arriving" which is simply the opposit= e of leaving!).=A0

I'm also convinced that weekdays names should be names and I like f= orming names with rafsi, so here are my proposals

> * Moon Landing Day=A0=A0 ->=A0 {tumkladj}
> * Armstrong Day=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 ->=A0 {armstrongydj}
> *= Aldrin Day=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 -> {aldrinydj}
=
> Days of the week:
> * Venusday=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0 -> {venusydj}
> * Saturnday=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 ->=A0 {saturydj}
> * Solday=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 -> {sol= ydj}
> * Lunaday=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 -> {luna= dj}
> * Marsday=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 -> {mar= sydj}
> * Mercuryday=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 -> {mercurydj}<= br>> * Jupiterday=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 -> {djupiterydj= }
>
> Months:
> * Archimedes=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 -> =
> * Brahe
> * Copernicus
> * Darwin
> * Einstein> * Faraday
> * Galileo
> * Hippocrates
> * Imhotep<= br>> * Jung
> * Kepler
> * Lavoisier
> * Mendel
>
>
> Thank you for you= r time,

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