From lojban-beginners+bncCK7Yk5CUCxCimfDyBBoEkt3d7w@googlegroups.com Mon Aug 29 15:03:29 2011 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qy9vR-0008El-PD; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:03:28 -0700 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11sf10843504gwb.16 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:03:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=A+Cg/NZrd+lsPY6ShykCQD9PQoE71K+AJ/RItymEidc=; b=zoX5GV+9qa0lC4Wjo/US9lr2lG+Hxegx9u+onK3Vw9w3f0RleA0nE1VHqoCuraJYSb BzRM+jLU5DphL9tsguadouzS6vkXE8XVZtnuvONCrJupYjraVR8vtyLD0u/acVzSFukr oMSR3RZ4KU1r2GvGAscdzPHY++Yc5h4P7U9RA= Received: by 10.101.200.1 with SMTP id c1mr859570anq.16.1314655394557; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:03:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.204.19 with SMTP id g19ls13231430anq.5.gmail; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.108.231 with SMTP id q67mr23082117yhg.5.1314655393364; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.108.231 with SMTP id q67mr23082115yhg.5.1314655393344; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gy0-f177.google.com (mail-gy0-f177.google.com [209.85.160.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p20si3062194yhe.5.2011.08.29.15.03.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.177; Received: by gyh20 with SMTP id 20so5707006gyh.36 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:03:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.51.135 with SMTP id vi7mr5435449icb.362.1314655393128; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.178.71 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:03:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <622b9cdc-d8bd-4cb0-912e-b292cc03f31e@a7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> References: <20110826170823.GB17646@alice.local> <622b9cdc-d8bd-4cb0-912e-b292cc03f31e@a7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:03:13 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Lojbanifying the Tranquility Calendar From: Remo Dentato To: "lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com" X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52e6217b5a28f04abac0f62 --bcaec52e6217b5a28f04abac0f62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Monday, August 29, 2011, DataPacRat wrote: > On Aug 29, 3:56 pm, Remo Dentato wrote: >> On Friday, August 26, 2011, DataPacRat wrote: > >> It has been very useful for me. I understand now that I should study >> better how dates work in lojban! >> >> I hope you can find some useful element in what I wrot! >> >> remod > > I am /very/ happy with what I read in your post, and I expect to adopt > most of it. :) (Once I have a good set of words to use, I'll be > running them through TengScribe to put them in the character's > preferred orthography, and then, once I work out a decent > presentation, putting up a webpage with the full calendar.) > > I just ran all the words you proposed through an online Lojbanic > translator ( http://www.lojban.org/jboski/index.php ), to make sure > they followed proper word-formation rules, but a few of them came up > with errors. > > >> * Armstrong Day -> {armstrongydj} -> {ayrydy} >> * Aldrin Day -> {aldrinydj} -> {aylydy} > > For these two, the long form seems fine, but the short form doesn't > quite seem to work. Fortunately, each of these days only occurs once > every year (or every four years), so I can probably get away with just > the long form, if need be. > The short form is wrong, sorry :( it should be {aburydy} and {abulydy}. My fault! also the long form should end in "d" and no longer in "dj" > >> xippocratesym > > I'm not really sure why the translator rejected this one. > for the double "p", should be {xipokratesym} (note that the "c" was wrong too). >> lavuasierym for the initial "la". It is avoidable if you remember to always use "dotside" as in {.lavuasierym.} or change it in {lyvuasierym} > > The translator was trying to interpret 'la' separately from > 'vuasierym', meaning this string isn't unambiguously a single word. > SorryI planned to check everything twice but since I sent the first email in error, I had to rush to complete the "right" one Let us know how your character comes out! remod > > I'm now 95% towards my goal for this stage - now I just have to re- > read the rules on Lojbannic word-formation to see if I can figure out > how to fix the words. 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On Monday, August 29, 2011, DataPacRat <datapacrat@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 29, 3:56= =A0pm, Remo Dentato <rdent...@gmai= l.com> wrote:
>> =A0On Friday, August 26, 2011, DataPacRat <datapac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>= It has been very useful for me. I understand now that I should study
&g= t;> better how dates work in lojban!
>>
>> I hope you can find some useful element in what I wrot= !
>>
>> remod
>
> I am /very/ happy with what= I read in your post, and I expect to adopt
> most of it. :) (Once I = have a good set of words to use, I'll be
> running them through TengScribe to put them in the character's
= > preferred orthography, and then, once I work out a decent
> pres= entation, putting up a webpage with the full calendar.)
>
> I j= ust ran all the words you proposed through an online Lojbanic
> translator ( http:/= /www.lojban.org/jboski/index.php ), to make sure
> they followed = proper word-formation rules, but a few of them came up
> with errors.=
>
>
>> * Armstrong Day =A0 =A0 =A0-> =A0{armstrongydj}= =A0 -> {ayrydy}
>> * Aldrin Day =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -> =A0{aldr= inydj} =A0 =A0 =A0-> {aylydy}
>
> For these two, the long fo= rm seems fine, but the short form doesn't
> quite seem to work. Fortunately, each of these days only occurs once> every year (or every four years), so I can probably get away with ju= st
> the long form, if need be.
>

The short form is wron= g, sorry :( it should be {aburydy} and {abulydy}. My fault!
also the long form should end in "d" and no longer in "dj&qu= ot;

>
>> xippocratesym
>
> I'm not reall= y sure why the translator rejected this one.
>

for the double = "p", should be {xipokratesym} (note that the "c" was wr= ong too).



>> lavuasierym

for the initial "la". It = is avoidable if you remember to always use "dotside" as in {.lavu= asierym.} or change it in {lyvuasierym}
>
> The translator was = trying to interpret 'la' separately from
> 'vuasierym', meaning this string isn't unambiguously a sin= gle word.
>

SorryI planned to check everything twice but since= I sent the first email in error, I had to rush to complete the "right= " one

Let us know how your character comes out!

remod


><= br>> I'm now 95% towards my goal for this stage - now I just have to= re-
> read the rules on Lojbannic word-formation to see if I can fig= ure out
> how to fix the words. (Of course, if somebody wants to post fixes
&= gt; before I figure it out myself, I'm perfectly willing to work with> that. :) =A0)
>
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