From lojban-beginners+bncCM64ir3sAxCHy-rxBBoEgR5kWQ@googlegroups.com Thu Aug 04 06:58:48 2011 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QoyRd-0004sl-E3; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 06:58:47 -0700 Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26sf1028056wyj.16 for ; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 06:58:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-mimeole:mime-version:subject:date :message-id:in-reply-to:x-ms-has-attach:x-ms-tnef-correlator :thread-topic:thread-index:from:to:x-scanned-by:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-class:content-type; bh=6L0wf1aYNs4xt1Xaz/rRyV7hLkHywrpmKX+WzjGOF70=; b=HpHafcneHvmqyMY275vznE+detve+DQU8rMYu6lr97biJVIUOoVTyDEy9+A4kLWK6s zuxebrVXAcHq6ebXEbtMmY5xxjr6f6oZGptljf62z4YjTPvgWyVg6rTEzgF22k95/SH5 +hF4TB5StkB3R4894oCjUYSOKELSVss/18jEk= Received: by 10.216.140.165 with SMTP id e37mr290971wej.13.1312466311078; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 06:58:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.137.212 with SMTP id x20ls4581636wbt.0.gmail; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 06:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.167.68 with SMTP id h46mr120680wel.11.1312466307660; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 06:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.167.68 with SMTP id h46mr120679wel.11.1312466307550; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 06:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cluster-d.mailcontrol.com (cluster-d.mailcontrol.com [85.115.60.190]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c25si3132190wbp.1.2011.08.04.06.58.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 04 Aug 2011 06:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of michael.eaton@blackpool.gov.uk designates 85.115.60.190 as permitted sender) client-ip=85.115.60.190; Received: from aeacus.blackpool.gov.uk (aeacus.blackpool.gov.uk [195.188.21.21]) by rly53d.srv.mailcontrol.com (MailControl) with ESMTP id p74DwKLF010667 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:58:21 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [lojban-beginners] Re: "mi prami do" or "mi cu prami do" ? Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:58:26 +0100 Message-ID: <9DE5DB0988ED6C448E606734F5030D382F29DBAF@bbcmbmx01.blackpool.gov.uk> In-Reply-To: <22345005.2719.1312465668458.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqic12> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: "mi prami do" or "mi cu prami do" ? Thread-Index: AcxSrTwOwI9F5e43QzqZmqnyIWDEGAAAFXtw From: "Michael Eaton" To: X-Scanned-By: MailControl A-12-01-02 (www.mailcontrol.com) on 10.68.0.163 X-Original-Sender: michael.eaton@blackpool.gov.uk X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of michael.eaton@blackpool.gov.uk designates 85.115.60.190 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=michael.eaton@blackpool.gov.uk Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CC52AE.94D6D384" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CC52AE.94D6D384 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think you're getting a little confused, there. Birdhouse is still a noun.= Even if it were a bird-shaped house it would be 'bird-shaped (adj.) house = (noun). The only way it would even work in your example would be to call it= a 'bird-built house'. I can't actually think of any examples of nouns that= can literally (without being a homonym or changed in some way) 'be transfo= rmed' into an adjective. =20 Whether or not lojban will allow it is another matter...that I'm afraid I c= an't answer. -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com [mailto:lojban-beginners@googlegrou= ps.com]On Behalf Of najrut Sent: 04 August 2011 14:48 To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: "mi prami do" or "mi cu prami do" ? OK, let me explain. Of course, I knew that pro-sumti cannot form tanru.=20 But ... is it anyway possible to form tanru with pro-sumti included ? In English almost any noun can be transformed into an adjective. Like cipni - a bird (noun) cipni dinju - a bird (adjective) house. A building somehow connected with = birds. may be a building built by birds. So how should i transfrom "mi" so it can mean something like "mine" in Engl= ish ? --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban-beginners/-/iJ4QInvScIEJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. 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I think you're getting a little confused, there. Birdhouse = is=20 still a noun. Even if it were a bird-shaped house it would be 'bird-shaped= =20 (adj.) house (noun). The only way it would even work in your example would = be to=20 call it a 'bird-built house'. I can't actually think of any examples of nou= ns=20 that can literally (without being a homonym or changed in some way) 'be=20 transformed' into an adjective.
 
Whether or not lojban will allow it is another matter...tha= t I'm=20 afraid I can't answer.
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OK, let me=20 explain. Of course, I knew that pro-sumti cannot form tanru.

But ... is it anyway possible to form tanru with pro-sumti included= =20 ?

In English almost any noun can be transformed into an adjective.

Like
cipni   - a bird (noun)
cipni dinju  - a bird (adjective) house. A building somehow=20 connected with birds. may be a building built by birds.

So how should i transfrom "mi" so it can mean something like "mine" = in=20 English ?

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