From lojban-beginners+bncCNTPpI2KGxCUnK7yBBoExPGvCA@googlegroups.com Wed Aug 17 02:47:13 2011 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QtciM-0003mT-SX; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 02:47:12 -0700 Received: by wwf4 with SMTP id 4sf2008578wwf.16 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 02:47:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=3tA7V93fpuUTVdoW5wPPHslsoKAzH4xW/U1IBBHDczo=; b=3kRrgR/tNcRCn3SLJtiZfrjPWiSwevZQBJyWUuYWrFyIwl8p3RpbevNThKg/ED9GFF DEqFkSs2hGSpg7nz4wXP2aOBIp9+OP/c4wWMbEt3qO2UvzWJBcujxbyZUa71xzV2wLY6 dfyQ09m63aAl3Btu9u+mv/hqDIgRVMlAblIm4= Received: by 10.216.243.203 with SMTP id k53mr1674742wer.28.1313574420528; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 02:47:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.127.72 with SMTP id c48ls180845eei.4.gmail; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 02:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.145.13 with SMTP id o13mr174028eej.17.1313574419445; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 02:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.145.13 with SMTP id o13mr174027eej.17.1313574419433; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 02:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id p42si1351119eea.0.2011.08.17.02.46.57; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 02:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.122; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=SOlsIBN44tkg4MqIq+y2aLZdhoA3kHpmiRsLue6rfnM= c=1 sm=0 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=Kws6_MPOehkA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=VypsZcc8nzVka9nf4KwA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:39566] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 6A/23-15242-01E8B4E4; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 09:46:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181771A147 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 05:46:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Tenses and Event Contours Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 05:46:52 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201108170546.53870.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 16 August 2011 23:19:46 volcpitar wrote: > ni'o coi rodo i mi cnino mrilu i ku'i mi cire'u ca troci co vlicu'u fo > lo lojbo i a'isai iiru'ero'e mi troci co cusku lo pamoi pagbu be le > dei bau lo lojbo te zu'e lo pu'u cilre zenba i pe'u do ga'unai drazu'e > ro da poi selsrera be mi co tergerna se cusku ja cu'u tadji i le dei > se jersi lo glico xelfanva be le dei =A0=A0 I don't know what you mean by "vlicu'u" or what its x4 is. "le dei" followed by something other than a selbri is ungrammatical. You me= an=20 just "dei". > ni'o mi puza tcidu lo se casnu po'u lo jai ta'i cmene lo djecmi be lo > jefveldetri i ta'o xu lo bi'u jai ta'i cmene mo'u se > kampytugni=A0i=A0ta'onai=A0ja'ebo mi na crici lo du'u lo ni mi djuno fi l= o > lojbo ke temci se cusku cu banzu i lo di'e cu so'ore'u preti i li'o > mi'e la volcpitar =A0 =A0 =A0 "jefveldetri" is not valid; "jefyveldetri" is. "crici" is undefined. "lo di= 'e=20 cu ..." is ungrammatical, like "le dei bau ..." above. lo jefydetri lo rarbau zo'u lo porto cu frica lo potrgalego .iseni'ibo lo= =20 dzeporto cu tolcau re le ciste .i zoi py. domingo segunda-feira ter=E7a-fei= ra=20 quarta-feira quinta-feira sexta-feira s=E1bado .py. fa'u zoi py. domingo lu= ns=20 martes m=E9rcores joves vernes s=E1bado .py. .i lo jefydetri lo lojbo zo'u = e'u ko=20 cilre ro ciste gi'e pilno lo se nelci "joves" is the AGAL spelling and the one that would be used in Portuguese i= f=20 it still used the word. The official Galician spelling is "xoves". The "o" = is=20 open. soldei lurdei fagdei jaudje mudydei jimdei derdei xundei najdei peldei ri'odje cicnydei bladei zirdei nondei pavdei reldei cibdei vondei mumdei xavdei (zeldei=3Dnondei) Pierre --=20 li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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