From lojban-beginners+bncCK30vq5WEMaet_IEGgSWOU2-@googlegroups.com Thu Aug 18 19:49:53 2011 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QuF9b-0000qn-Bt; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:49:53 -0700 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11sf2686926gwb.16 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:49:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vtnbca9uTp0SgPl3XlpBYmXaliCD5ln/oliCfjxkOUg=; b=0IfXwYYvnD9ZcZEQY1bnifdrkFoTra15bROnrq4ZMeg79jnL4S6aGpSOnQKxW5fJ0n nm87TI/hiSrd9PtTNcfXeyjmFUWqNQf7darPDLoRW9ZYwgZ0AziouXJ76jCoRVffTV1/ mIsvJq80I3t4gXITqdePoakx3qQIYwYJuRzNU= Received: by 10.150.61.14 with SMTP id j14mr270187yba.7.1313722182424; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:49:42 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.90.116.9 with SMTP id o9ls8857794agc.3.gmail; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.80.70 with SMTP id j46mr2470873yhe.5.1313722180770; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.80.70 with SMTP id j46mr2470872yhe.5.1313722180759; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j4si8258321pbi.2.2011.08.18.19.49.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QuF9O-0000qj-FH for lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:49:38 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:49:38 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: to be Message-ID: <20110819024938.GT23836@digitalkingdom.org> References: <89cb8bf4-0f2a-4688-9411-03031f2e95d2@a31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com> <20110815051137.GD23836@digitalkingdom.org> <8720dfa9-6d38-42ac-8108-33fe95ba8242@br5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8720dfa9-6d38-42ac-8108-33fe95ba8242@br5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable He specifically said he didn't want "to exist", which is {zasti}, approximately. "to do" is {gasnu} or {zukte}, "to have quality" is {ckaji}. -Robin On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 07:24:34PM -0700, Jed wrote: > Maybe a verb for "to exist," "to do," or "to have quality x2." Being > and doing are arguably the same in Lojban. >=20 > On Aug 15, 12:11=A0am, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 09:54:38AM -0700, jongausib wrote: > > > How do you say: > > > > > "To be or not to be, that is the question" > > > > > in lojban. > > > > Given what the sentence actually *means*, in context, {pau nai xu > > sevzi catra}, or similar. =A0If it's important to you to maintain the > > structure (which Lojban rather specifically tries to not let you do, > > by the way, since it has no copula), consider lifri or jmive. > > > > -Robin > > > > --http://singinst.org/: =A0Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/):The language in which "this parrot > > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > > is "na nei". =A0 My personal page:http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscrib= e@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an-beginners?hl=3Den. >=20 --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.