From lojban-beginners+bncCOjSjrXVGBCRueTzBBoEnttz4w@googlegroups.com Tue Sep 20 16:07:18 2011 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R69PH-00011f-P9; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:07:18 -0700 Received: by ywm3 with SMTP id 3sf1317068ywm.16 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:07:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=wxEk38QiuiWwH3bLRE44ltuTmFzpNeidojBUlrLWssA=; b=YY2I+Ahl24q4C8+E5PrAZILudFxE1DFCzy500JiDbqoJvRvdKMpBNquUu4Ca5Mgq6o a8yDDUo1FiEHUPPX0/7swUhnQVf7mIuPVksXrtRwsHKOrfVOrLYYNSDR4KtoYzoz8T+e dzzoSTPjpTZDYxXcSVT55VtuTLC6mkSyX4ETU= Received: by 10.146.54.31 with SMTP id c31mr15202yaa.24.1316560017275; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:06:57 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.7.16 with SMTP id k16ls3000265ani.1.gmail; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.24.40 with SMTP id 40mr1280884anx.7.1316560016320; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.24.40 with SMTP id 40mr1280882anx.7.1316560016293; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v10si3871897anq.2.2011.09.20.16.06.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.182; Received: by mail-yx0-f182.google.com with SMTP id 36so913458yxk.41 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.170.170 with SMTP id p30mr231706yhl.117.1316560016088; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:06:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.95.44 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:06:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <11340793.641.1316264331285.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqcd38> From: Luke Bergen Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:06:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] One popular Russian song in Lojban To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305b0920159f9704ad678420 --20cf305b0920159f9704ad678420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alex: yep, I was addressing you. Your lojban says "srera tu'a zo ti'e" but your english says {think "tu'a" is the wrong word}. Which is the word that is wrong? "tu'a" or "ti'e"? ta'onai not in a location where I can easily listen to audio. I'll give th= e audio a listen later. I look forward to seeing it sync to your lyrics. Th= e only part that jumped out and gave me pause was the line with {ku roi ku}. I'm not sure what {roi} does when not preceded by a number like that. 2011/9/20 Alex Rozenshteyn > Interpreting as addressed to me, In which case I'm not sure what you're > asking; I think I meant to use both words as I did. > > > 2011/9/20 Luke Bergen > >> .u'i djisku zo tu'a ji zo ti'e >> On Sep 20, 2011 2:48 PM, ".arpis." wrote: >> > .i mi ji'a se rukybau .i ku'i mi zvati lo merko .i mi ba'e ba tinju'i = lo >> > selsa'a .i ku'i caku mi simlu co srera tu'a zo ti'e >> > >> > =F1 =D4=CF=D6=C5 =C7=CF=D7=CF=D2=C0 =D0=CF =F2=D5=D3=D3=CB=C9, =CE=CF = =D1 =D6=C9=D7=D5 =D7 =E1=CD=C5=D2=C9=CB=C5. =F1 =D0=CF=D3=CC=D5=DB=C1=C0 = =D0=C5=D3=D8=CE=C0, =CE=CF =D0=CF=CB=C1 >> =CD=CE=C5 >> > =CB=C1=D6=C5=D4=D3=CF =CA=D4=CF =D3=CC=CF=D7=CF "tu'a" =CE=C5 =D0=D2= =C1=D7=C5=CC=D8=CE=CF=C5. >> > >> > I also speak Russian, but I'm in America. I am going to listen to the >> song, >> > but I thing "tu'a" is the wrong word. >> > >> > PS: Apologies for my bad Russian spelling and grammar; I never learned >> to >> > write. >> > PPS: Apologies for my bad lojban expressivity; I'm still learning to >> write. >> > >> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:58 AM, gleki >> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi from Russia. I'm very interested in Lojban language. Together with >> my >> >> pen friends >> >> I decided to translate one text into Lojban. It's a popular Russian >> song >> >> called "Wonderful Distant Future". >> >> Here is the accompaniment< >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAEQ69ytcSGw&feature=3Drelated>. >> >> And here is the song >> itself in >> >> >> Russian. >> >> >> >> I also translated the song into English so that you can check my >> >> translation. English translation doesn't preserve the rhythm. Lojbani= c >> does. >> >> >> >> I hope you'll point out my mistakes so that i can make corrections an= d >> and >> >> then upload the song onto Youtube. >> >> >> >> I can hear a voice from the Beautiful distant Future >> >> A morning voice in a silvery dew. >> >> I can hear the voice and a luring road >> >> Is driving me mad like a merry-go-round in childhood >> >> *Refrain: >> >> **Oh the Beautiful distant Future ! >> >> Don't be cruel to me ! >> >> Don't be cruel to me ! >> >> Don't be cruel ! >> >> From a clear source >> >> to the Beautiful distant Future, >> >> to the Beautiful distant Future >> >> I'm starting my way. >> >> * >> >> I can hear the voice from the Beautiful distant Future >> >> It's calling me into wonderful lands. >> >> I can hear the voice and it's strictly asking me >> >> What I did today for tomorrow >> >> >> >> I swear that I'll become more pure and kind >> >> And will never leave my friend in trouble >> >> I can hear the voice and I'm running in a hurry to the calling >> >> Via a road where there are no trails >> >> >> >> ti'e voksa to'o lozu melbi balvi >> >> ku noi jbini fe lo cerni dirgo ku >> >> .i da voksa ja'e makfa trina pluta >> >> du'i lonu vofli ku macri'a mi >> >> >> >> .i doi zu melbi balvi >> >> ko ba fe mi na jursa >> >> .i pe'u doi zu balvi >> >> ko jimpe fi mi >> >> .i fi lo klina krasi >> >> fe lozu melbi balvi >> >> .e lonu manci balvi >> >> cu klama ca fa mi >> >> >> >> ti'e voksa to'o lozu melbi balvi >> >> ku noi klacpe lo tcemanci tutre ku >> >> .i da voksa zo'u da ca junri cpedu >> >> lu do gunka fi bavlamdei pu fe ma >> >> >> >> .i mi nupre lonu mi ba vrude zmadu >> >> gi'e sidju lo mi pendo ku roi ku >> >> .i da voksa ja'e sutra bajra fa mi >> >> fe lo pluta be fo li no farna ku >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/jJzl8s-kw-sJ. >> >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.co= m >> . >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > mu'o mi'e .arpis. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com= . >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >> > > > > -- > Alex R > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --20cf305b0920159f9704ad678420 Content-Type: text/html; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alex: yep, I was addressing you. =9AYour lojban says "srera tu'a z= o ti'e" but your english says {think "tu'a" is the w= rong word}. =9AWhich is the word that is wrong? =9A"tu'a" or = "ti'e"?

ta'onai not in a location where I can easily listen to a= udio. =9AI'll give the audio a listen later. =9AI look forward to seein= g it sync to your lyrics. =9AThe only part that jumped out and gave me paus= e was the line with {ku roi ku}. =9AI'm not sure what {roi} does when n= ot preceded by a number like that.

2011/9/20 Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com>
Interpreting as addressed to me, In which case I'm not sure what you= 9;re asking; I think I meant to use both words as I did.


2011/9/20 Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>

.u'i djisku zo tu'a ji zo ti'= e

On Sep 20, 2011 2:48 PM, ".arpis."= ; <rp= glover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
> .i mi= ji'a se rukybau .i ku'i mi zvati lo merko .i mi ba'e ba tinju&= #39;i lo
> selsa'a .i ku'i caku mi simlu co srera tu'a zo ti'e>
> =F1 =D4=CF=D6=C5 =C7=CF=D7=CF=D2=C0 =D0=CF =F2=D5=D3=D3=CB= =C9, =CE=CF =D1 =D6=C9=D7=D5 =D7 =E1=CD=C5=D2=C9=CB=C5. =F1 =D0=CF=D3=CC=D5= =DB=C1=C0 =D0=C5=D3=D8=CE=C0, =CE=CF =D0=CF=CB=C1 =CD=CE=C5
> =CB=C1= =D6=C5=D4=D3=CF =CA=D4=CF =D3=CC=CF=D7=CF "tu'a" =CE=C5 =D0= =D2=C1=D7=C5=CC=D8=CE=CF=C5.
>
> I also speak Russian, but I'm in America. I am going to l= isten to the song,
> but I thing "tu'a" is the wrong wo= rd.
>
> PS: Apologies for my bad Russian spelling and grammar;= I never learned to
> write.
> PPS: Apologies for my bad lojban expressivity; I'm = still learning to write.
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:58 AM, = gleki <g= leki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi from Russia. I'm very interested in Lojban languag= e. Together with my
>> pen friends
>> I decided to transl= ate one text into Lojban. It's a popular Russian song
>> calle= d "Wonderful Distant Future".
>> Here is the accompaniment<http://www.yout= ube.com/watch?v=3DAEQ69ytcSGw&feature=3Drelated>.
>> An= d here <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXueqDSQQcvA>is the song= itself in

>> Russian.
>>
>> I also translated the song into E= nglish so that you can check my
>> translation. English translatio= n doesn't preserve the rhythm. Lojbanic does.
>>
>> I= hope you'll point out my mistakes so that i can make corrections and a= nd
>> then upload the song onto Youtube.
>>
>> I can h= ear a voice from the Beautiful distant Future
>> A morning voice i= n a silvery dew.
>> I can hear the voice and a luring road
>> Is driving me mad like a merry-go-round in childhood
>> *= Refrain:
>> **Oh the Beautiful distant Future !
>> Don= 9;t be cruel to me !
>> Don't be cruel to me !
>> Don= 't be cruel !
>> From a clear source
>> to the Beautiful distant Future,>> to the Beautiful distant Future
>> I'm starting my = way.
>> *
>> I can hear the voice from the Beautiful dist= ant Future
>> It's calling me into wonderful lands.
>> I can hear t= he voice and it's strictly asking me
>> What I did today for t= omorrow
>>
>> I swear that I'll become more pure and = kind
>> And will never leave my friend in trouble
>> I can hear t= he voice and I'm running in a hurry to the calling
>> Via a ro= ad where there are no trails
>>
>> ti'e voksa to'= o lozu melbi balvi
>> ku noi jbini fe lo cerni dirgo ku
>> .i da voksa ja'e= makfa trina pluta
>> du'i lonu vofli ku macri'a mi
>= ;>
>> .i doi zu melbi balvi
>> ko ba fe mi na jursa >> .i pe'u doi zu balvi
>> ko jimpe fi mi
>> .i= fi lo klina krasi
>> fe lozu melbi balvi
>> .e lonu manc= i balvi
>> cu klama ca fa mi
>>
>> ti'e voks= a to'o lozu melbi balvi
>> ku noi klacpe lo tcemanci tutre ku
>> .i da voksa zo'= u da ca junri cpedu
>> lu do gunka fi bavlamdei pu fe ma
>&g= t;
>> .i mi nupre lonu mi ba vrude zmadu
>> gi'e sidj= u lo mi pendo ku roi ku
>> .i da voksa ja'e sutra bajra fa mi
>> fe lo pluta be = fo li no farna ku
>>
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>
>
>
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> mu'o m= i'e .arpis.
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