Received: from mail-oa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.219.61]:63225) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TdlhA-0007r4-Dr; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:45:20 -0800 Received: by mail-oa0-f61.google.com with SMTP id o6sf9927256oag.16 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:45:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vIPvgqetdVY0dyn1giSaXFV33BdzHSx9WDgpn2aOIhU=; b=OURISQ1CsipfbHYQsc3kvnO64NDbz0tDhZbetS2z2A0Rub9YoxXWDmJelrtD1lvRFR FSVExOdFYXRohjU+U+SX5OkjQSTwFzlPJu/shYLcRNBnimJiF81IawGHIPucef32b6VP qxyhvHgf0/8ScLpc8n7l1+5v97VqJ9Z1RL7mil+SoMxh2Nj/o+cjjcWcZuuf4k1/FiyA dAg8oKcDcMOectoiC5YisCQYr6UtKp6iVKrfn2/PHkUqFUsaW5FcAgvw8+oDT0hsf+Uu XYZNqh5Yl4JVLwighMyaPyb22mLzfy9bqmFWusMXP1FrP4eW59BCkw7Ixm+ru3NYs22Q I7HA== Received: by 10.49.34.135 with SMTP id z7mr3702323qei.1.1354085707650; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:55:07 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.62.71 with SMTP id w7ls94916qer.88.gmail; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:55:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.72.169 with SMTP id e9mr3296503qev.3.1354085706356; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:55:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by r4g2000vbi.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:55:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:55:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1457210.DJSy22tii9@caracal> References: <1376458.ShreGqI8Iq@caracal> <2046694.Jy3urARx3F@caracal> <1457210.DJSy22tii9@caracal> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/537.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/22.0.1229.79 Safari/537.4,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: zo braile From: ianek To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: janek37@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of janek37@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=janek37@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Maybe {peclermorna}? mu'o mi'e ianek On 28 Lis, 04:51, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 14:14:56 Anton Golov wrote: > > > braile can't be a gismu for it as it doesn't obey the gismu format (CCV= CV > > or CVCCV). =A0What about pecban (or pecbau), a combination of touch and > > language? > > That would be "pecybau", and the type-3 would be "bangrbraile" or > "banrbraile", but Braille isn't a language, it's a family of writing syst= ems. > Knowing French Braille doesn't help much with reading Hungarian Braille, = for > someone who doesn't know Hungarian. Knowing English Braille and spoken Ko= rean, > one would have a hard time reading Korean Braille, as the encoding of let= ters > is completely different. > > There is a tactile language, which could be called "pecybau". It's a vari= ant > of sign language. > > Pierre > -- > li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du > li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.