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[173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x3si11667702paw.1.2013.02.15.14.23.41 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:23:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 173.13.139.236 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of d3m1ank@gmail.com) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1U6Tgy-0008Nj-HM for lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:23:40 -0800 Received: from mail-oa0-f59.google.com ([209.85.219.59]:62105) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1U6Tgt-0008NP-9K for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:23:40 -0800 Received: by mail-oa0-f59.google.com with SMTP id k1so1260739oag.14 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:23:29 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.49.1.70 with SMTP id 6mr183235qek.27.1360967009095; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:23:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:23:28 -0800 (PST) From: Demian Koller To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Cc: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lo ve mruli MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam_score: 1.2 X-Spam_score_int: 12 X-Spam_bar: + X-Original-Sender: d3m1ank@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 173.13.139.236 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of d3m1ank@gmail.com) smtp.mail=d3m1ank@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3_30256375.1360967008572" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_3_30256375.1360967008572 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Interesting question. Apparently some sumti places are rather unhelpful/potentially interesting without further elaboration. I'm just a beginner, but it seems like one would need some kind of relative clause to flesh 'lo ve mruli' out, like: 'lo ve mruli poi birka mi'. I think that would translate roughly to "that which propels a hammer, which is my arm." I'm sure there's a better way to say that than I have, but that's the gist of it. Maybe I'm stating the obvious... In any case, thanks for giving me something to think about lojbanically speaking, and for teaching me a new word! On Monday, February 4, 2013 1:03:24 PM UTC-8, Judson wrote: > > Would 'lo ve mruli' be understood as something like e.g. "the strength of > my arm" or "the shaft of the hammer" ? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_3_30256375.1360967008572 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting question. Apparently some sumti places are rather unhelpful/pot= entially interesting without further elaboration. I'm just a beginner, but = it seems like one would need some kind of relative clause to flesh 'lo ve m= ruli' out, like: 'lo ve mruli poi birka mi'. I think that would translate r= oughly to "that which propels a hammer, which is my arm." I'm sure there's = a better way to say that than I have, but that's the gist of it. Maybe I'm = stating the obvious...

In any case, thanks for giving me something t= o think about lojbanically speaking, and for teaching me a new word!
On Monday, February 4, 2013 1:03:24 PM UTC-8, Judson wrote:
Would 'lo ve mr= uli' be understood as something like e.g. "the strength of my arm" or "the = shaft of the hammer" ?

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