From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Nov 18 13:53:42 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-es); Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:53:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L2YVy-0005V0-Ht for lojban-es-real@lojban.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:53:42 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.240]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L2YVv-0005Uo-02 for lojban-es@lojban.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:53:42 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so3364032rvf.46 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:53:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=HRWbLX4Avc96maQi0dVI4aWyylbXet8FhdbgVDAl/qU=; b=pydcu0tNcoBzBc3IzQQw2hUkOWSh5xT39BHUlzjPoBLLRIGCiYZqo3Vt1/LBvwo2Nm rwMG3I3U19jQA8rWQO36PDkNVVPg8qoeSS67Af9WoyAbpNUJhnqkmqEp+o9KAAfwPZg7 +DToxBf906xLvmXkR0KwtUk4HGhjIYEjRcA6c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=mYt99M5mTpDPH4tKR6rUhRtTvedbrIFLxWVBBA9ID1VgjwIgZuWVtsCByyfAyzamyh +46lahtkWcwha8n1HtHSKJnyh9aJEQRuRZ0ig96EAVi167hm+DX+A0yHoPz8maIxrCb1 PPDZRmoh5hFqujZF4O/elF+vjt1n4/pDJJ304= Received: by 10.140.192.9 with SMTP id p9mr159559rvf.236.1227045218245; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:53:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.194.15 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:53:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560811181353r51caeca3l2ce7d1d22f2d1a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:53:38 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-es@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-es] =?WINDOWS-1256?Q?Re:_[lojban-es]_Re:_Descripciones=FE?= In-Reply-To: <7d6acd5e0811181335u1ac9f2djaf8fae0fd0aac497@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560811171329k433a9579k10eea7ed8732f47@mail.gmail.com> <7d6acd5e0811181335u1ac9f2djaf8fae0fd0aac497@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: 5 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 228 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-es-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-es-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-es@lojban.org X-list: lojban-es 2008/11/18 : > un peque=F1o comentario a jorge sobre "mi terpa lo gerku". en mi > opini=F3n s=ED funcionan los cuantificadores por defecto. la frase > anterior significar=EDa lo mismo que "mi terpa su'o lo ro gerku", temo a > al menos a uno de todos los perros. > > la frase "me dan miedo los perros" ser=EDa m=E1s bien "mi terpa lo'e gerk= u". Bueno, pero seg=FAn CLL, "lo'e" tambi=E9n tiene un cuantificador por defect= o (su'o). Ya sea "lo" o "lo'e", el que sea que se use para ese tipo de referencia gen=E9rica no puede tener un cuantificador, o por lo menos no algo tan simple como "su'o" o "ro". mu'o mi'e xorxes