Received: from localhost ([::1]:58152 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T24h7-0006Zy-Dl; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:21:21 -0700 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.19]:8244) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T24gy-0006Zt-SI for lojban-fr@lojban.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:21:19 -0700 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2302.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1DB027000055 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:21:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.9online.fr (unknown [92.90.21.144]) by msfrf2302.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A7A267000088 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:21:05 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20120816182105686.A7A267000088@msfrf2302.sfr.fr To: lojban-fr@lojban.org References: <502AA6A7.8080003@free.fr> <201208161250.17807.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:21:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "David KOCH" Organization: 9Online Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <201208161250.17807.phma@phma.optus.nu> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (Win32) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Subject: Re: [Lojban-fr] Test X-BeenThere: lojban-fr@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Errors-To: lojban-fr-bounces@lojban.org I always wondered if there was a way to make Lojban more... compact. I mean, there is hardly any space saved writing in lojban. Sentences' length is about the same, considering that gismu uses 5 letters. cmavo might use fewer letters, in the best cases. Worst case is numbers written literally. It is "advertised" that lojban is very expressive, yet English too. You can also be really fuzzy in lobjan, just like in english. Just that gismu only have one meaning, avoiding homonym and polysemy. Question remains : what true benefit for the newbies ? lojban as a programming language ? Lisp has already proven being more = expressive. And more concise also. Le Thu, 16 Aug 2012 18:50:16 +0200, Pierre Abbat a = =E9crit: > ni'o le bi'u cmalu bloti ze'epu naku xe klama > il =E9tait un petit navire qui n'avait jamais navigu=E9 _______________________________________________ Lojban-fr mailing list Lojban-fr@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/lojban-fr